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Contrasts To highlight the irrational and nonsensical nature of Pretrib hermeneutics. We need to apply their mistaken interpretation to other passages that carry the same Greek word. Matthew 19:17 reads: “Why callest thou me good? there is none good but one, that is, God: but if thou wilt...

The Greek word tēreō actually comes up twice in Revelation 3:10: “Because thou hast kept (tēreō) the word of my patience, I also will keep (tēreō) thee from the hour of temptation, which shall come upon all the world, to try them that dwell upon the earth.” The word means: to attend to...

More avoidance. Answer a question with a question is deflection. Pretribbers have no answer to any query. Pretrib needs a decent burial.

Words words words but no Scripture. That sums up Pretrib. It cannot support its claims.

Does Jesus have 10 brides?

You Pretibbers seem incapable of addressing Posttrib rebuttals. I wonder why? They expose your position. The mark is spiritual. It has been on the go since Cain. Those who take it end up eternally damned. God's people have always been in tribulation.

I am sure He believes faith is a gift from God. He has to. There is no Plan B. It is as clear a truth as one can find in the Bible. The doctrines of grace are as liberating a truth as Amil. It allows the Word to be complete and make sense.

I added a line which you might of missed: You seem a quality brother also. I am still getting to know you.

You base your Pretrib belief on inference and implication. What you quote above relates to the here-and-now. It is the dead in Christ now before the throne of God in spirit. That is why you cannot find a Pretrib rapture before it - not here or anywhere else. If it was there, you and your 2...

More avoidance. The reader can see the pattern. This is all you have!

Our theological beliefs are very similar. I am Reformed, I believe in the doctrines of grace, I am Amil. But I am Idealist on Revelation, and not Partial Preterist, although I agree with a lot of Partial Preterism's views on Daniel 9 and large parts of Matthew 24, etc. I respect much of your...

Of course there is a meaning.

You keep making sweeping statements like this yet fail to give any evidence to support your speculations. That is because it doesn't support your thesis. You have already admitted: you have zero support for a Pretrib rapture in Revelation.

Please read the phrase in question and the one that Pretribbers try to use to justify their beliefs: "Because thou hast kept the word of my patience, I also will keep [Gr. tēreō] thee from [Gr. ek] the hour of temptation, which shall come upon all the world, to try them that dwell upon the...

Very well put!

I agree. It reflects who they are. Read their posts. Anyone who disagrees with Pretrib is the focus of their hate. All the time, they do not have one single proof text. Amazing. Talk about deception.

Jew and Gentiles are part of the Church - God's only chosen people. Everyone else is of their father the devil.

I agree: you have nothing! You never will have anything. It is a false teaching. It is extra-biblical. I suspect you know.

LOL. The opposite is truth. The reader can see how you are ducking the evidence I submitted above like the plague. You have nothing in that text (or any other) that supports Pretrib. You cannot even show us a tribulation following it. I wonder why? Because it does not exist. Everyone left behind...

The reader will see that you are totally contradicting yourself in every post you write. You've nothing of evidential worth to bring to the table.