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  1. OzSpen

    The Mystery of the Triune God

    Jane, I encourage you to not walk away yet. Let's wait to see whether *Light* really wants to dialogue or is a troll. Oz
  2. OzSpen

    The Mystery of the Triune God

    Enoch, Do you live in part of the real world on the earth? I do. Oz
  3. OzSpen

    The Mystery of the Triune God

    Light, You wrote 10 lengthy narratives, one after the other, not allowing any of us to interact with your ideas. That is not a means to encourage communication with me. Since you are relatively new on this forum, may I suggest you engage with us using one point at a time. That makes it a...
  4. OzSpen

    What is the purpose of vessels fitted for destruction?

    Has anyone in this thread attempted to unpack the meaning of human beings 'made in the image/likeness of God'. It can't refer to a physical body because God is spirit (Jn 4:24).
  5. OzSpen

    What is the purpose of vessels fitted for destruction?

    That doesn't answer my question of meaning of ALL drawn to Jesus when he was lifted up?
  6. OzSpen

    What is the purpose of vessels fitted for destruction?

    brakelite, How do you account for sinners after the Fall who have this image/likeness of God in them? but no one can tame the tongue—a restless evil, full of deadly poison. With it we bless the Lord and Father, and with it we curse those who are made in the likeness of God (James 3:8-9 NRSV)...
  7. OzSpen

    What is the purpose of vessels fitted for destruction?

    “Now therefore fear the Lord and serve him in sincerity and in faithfulness. Put away the gods that your fathers served beyond the River and in Egypt, and serve the Lord. And if it is evil in your eyes to serve the Lord, choose this day whom you will serve, whether the gods your fathers served...
  8. OzSpen

    What is the purpose of vessels fitted for destruction?

    So, What then is the meaning of John 12:32, 'I ... will draw all men to Myself'?
  9. OzSpen

    What is the purpose of vessels fitted for destruction?

    shn, The problem with your analysis is that you have not dealt with whom God draws. When I speak with Calvinists, they readily take me to John 6:44 (ESV): 'No one can come to me unless the Father who sent me draws him. And I will raise him up on the last day'. I agree with this statement 100%...
  10. OzSpen

    Resurrection: What kind was it?

    shn, From where did you gain that historical information? That's the version of John Dominic Crossan of the Jesus' Seminar who stated: So “what actually and historically happened to the body of Jesus”? According to John Dominic Crossan: “His body [was] left on the cross or in a shallow grave...
  11. OzSpen

    Resurrection: What kind was it?

    shn, You did not deal with the content I wrote. If you continue with this avoidance of the evidence I provide, I'll discontinue this interaction. You claim: You are drawing a long bow with this one as the evidence from secular Roman and Jewish officials was all around the resurrection. Here...
  12. OzSpen

    Resurrection: What kind was it?

    shn, Loving others is not the topic of the OP. However, this is: 33 And within the hour they were on their way back to Jerusalem. There they found the eleven disciples and the others who had gathered with them, 34 who said, “The Lord has really risen! He appeared to Peter. 35 Then the two...
  13. OzSpen

    Resurrection: What kind was it?

    ahn, We know Jesus' post-resurrection body was physical, but with qualities of immortality, i.e. he would not die again. He came to be crucified once. From 1 Cor 15 we learn that Jesus had a physical body and it was a human resurrection. However, this physical body after the Resurrection was...
  14. OzSpen

    Resurrection: What kind was it?

    sh, I've just received this reply from the editor of the e-journal: We use an algorithm to close off comments. At one stage they stayed alive forever, but that gave us problems with comment spam being left on threads that were dead. So now we leave the threads open until it has been a while...
  15. OzSpen

    Resurrection: What kind was it?

    You are correct. On Line Opinion (OLO) has archived the Comments section of the article. However, the content of what I wrote, Any old resurrection will not do, is still available at: http://www.onlineopinion.com.au/view.asp?article=20265 Seems as though OLO has a time limit for Comments. I'll...
  16. OzSpen

    ἐν ἀρχῇ ἦν ὁ λόγος καὶ ὁ λόγος ἦν πρὸς τὸν θεόν καὶ θεὸς ἦν ὁ λόγος

    GodsGrace, Why would anyone on an English Christian forum start a thread with the title: Ἐν ἀρχῇ ἦν ὁ λόγος, καὶ ὁ λόγος ἦν πρὸς τὸν θεόν, καὶ θεὸς ἦν ὁ λόγος? Tranliterated it is en arche en ho logos, kai ho logos en pros ton theon, kai theos en ho logos = (literally) 'In beginning was the...
  17. OzSpen

    Trinity vs. Tritheism: Understanding the Trinity.

    With that sentence are you talking about God the Father and God the Son as separate persons?
  18. OzSpen

    Trinity vs. Tritheism: Understanding the Trinity.

    G'Day G'Day Jay the Brissy bloke.