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... and if the Prophets cease, -- and they're lumped in with the Apostles, Evangelists, Pastors, and Teachers, then ALL OF THESE ARE EQUALLY UNFOUNDED, because they're all in the same group. Or maybe your doctrine is a LIE. Bobby Jo

Who is "righteous" except that a man confess his sins, repent of his ways, and become the man that GOD called him to be? -- And Trump is all of this. But if you can find any PERFECT man, then please invite him to be the "Jew's anticipated Messiah", -- and see if his name sums to 666. Bobby Jo

Hmm. It seems self evident to me, but then again I have no problem with accepting the gifting of the church. -- My only problem is when we treat HIRELINGS as though they were "Pastors". :) Bobby Jo

Well, I would like to interject once again, and propose that if there are NO PROPHETS as some assert, -- then why do these SAME people insist that we have Evangelists, Pastors, and Teachers? They're lumped in with Apostles and Prophets, so why the discrimination? Either accept the ALL, or...

?Scripture? Are you familiar with the J.R. Church "Hidden Prophecies In The Psalms" premise? It's confirmed by Daniel! Bobby Jo

Hey David, No offense, but your by-line says: Preacher, Author, Husband, -- which would seem to suggest that you SHOULD be familiar with not only the two prophets, and that one is referred to as "Elijah". Furthermore, the church debates whether "Elijah" and possibly "Enoch" ( -- because they...

Jennifer said: ↑ The ones the Lord send on thier feet to bring some sort of divine messages to the world etc.. Hey DNB, We ARE in the tribulation, so where are the TWO Prophets?!? -- Do they have to JEWS? Can Christians Prophesy? If so, then why not find the two men which proclaim the...

"Prophet"/"Teacher", who can tell the difference? Is it REVELATION? If so I have had REVELATION, as most. If it's STUDY, I've had STUDY as have most. If it's TRUTH, then a correct REVELATION and/or STUDY is something that I've had as have most. ... except I don't wear a garment with the...

YEP! In heaven we won't need "Prophets" because we'll be with GOD and all things will be revealed in the fullness of GOD HIMSELF! But until then we see through a glass darkly, -- if we're even LOOKING! So we need someone to see and see clearly. But at the same time, we must judge what each...

I'll speak to this! -- I haven't seen a righteous politician in this country (the U.S.) in the life spans of several generations, until now. And he's not a politician, but he is President, and we can see how satan is throwing his fiery darts in a hurricane of crossfires. But GOD is...

Yeah, I marked this "LIKED", but would have preferred "LIKED A LOT"! :) Bobby Jo

I would think that statement is a little extreme, and better rendered as being misled by those who have different agendas typical of HIRELINGS who try to hold the "eminent return of Jesus" over our heads as a club to increase attendance at EVERY AVAILABLE SERVICE, and thereby participating IN...

Perhaps the CONTEXT is the church! And the church is supposed to have a participatory membership versus having a HIRELING give the "lesson" week after week after week after week after week aft... , well you get the idea. And in this CONTEXT, we are not only told HERE to "let the prophets speak...

Here's my OPINION: ___________________________________ Yep, it's blank. So here's what Scripture says to the church: 1 Cor. 14:29 Let two or three prophets speak, and let the others weigh what is said. We MUST allow the prophets to speak, and then judge if it's of GOD or of man. And if man...

I think my point was not the concise chronology of those events, but rather, -- during the events when Jesus died, and people came out of their tombs, WAS THERE A RAPTURE? AND during the Tribulation those who refused the MARK will be raised, BUT THE DEAD WILL NOT BE RAISED until the thousand...

Funny how we try to use (read: abuse) Scripture to justify our personal beliefs. Some people INSIST we can't judge SIN, when in fact we simply can't judge INDIVIDUALS who are outside the church. And so although GOD cannot accommodate sin, somehow arguments are presented as though GOD can...

Thank you for your well thought out and carefully constructed views. They are deeply appreciated. Whew, Bobby Jo

Agreed: Rev. 20:4 ... I saw the souls of those who had been beheaded for their testimony to Jesus and for the word of God, and who had not worshiped the beast or its image and had not received its mark on their foreheads or their hands. They came to life, and reigned with Christ a thousand...

Yep, the problem is: When are the DEAD raised? -- After the thousand years are ended? Another problem is HIRELINGS using the "rapture" as a whip to keep people coming to church and paying tithes FOR THEIR CONTINUED (and in many cases -- SUBSTANTIAL) INCOME. -- Jesus could come at any moment...

Have read. Have understood. We will have a "rapture" after the dead are raised: Rev. 20:7 And when the thousand years are ended, ... 12 And I saw the dead, great and small, standing before the throne, and books were opened. Also another book was opened, which is the book of life. And the...