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  1. Wrangler

    Exploring Trinitarian Logic

    If ever a question deserved it's own thread! :D The notion of not knowing something is difficult for man to accept. One could make the argument that is the Original Sin, IDOLATRY of knowledge. Admitting there is something we don't know requires humility. Odd that anyone would feel the need...
  2. Wrangler

    Exploring Trinitarian Logic

    He should look in the mirror, take personal responsibility for his emotions and respond to posts to edify not criticize, condemn and complain. This thread is about trinitarian logic. Predictably, as soon as Marks gets involved, somehow we’re talking about his delicate sensibilities again. Can...
  3. Wrangler

    Exploring Trinitarian Logic

    Typical @marks post… Regarding trinitarian logic. On display is Appeal To Emotion and Ad Homenim.
  4. Wrangler

    Exploring Trinitarian Logic

    Do you think this expresses the heart of Jesus?
  5. Wrangler

    Exploring Trinitarian Logic

    There is a Taoist expression that I have not found a Judeo-Christian equivalent. Before enlightenment, chop wood. After enlightenment, chop wood. It means one must always return to the basics. I am convinced true Christianity is divinely simple. Love God. Love Others. Humans feel compelled to...
  6. Wrangler

    Exploring Trinitarian Logic

    The defensive royal "we," right out of the gate. The opposite is the case, as usual, it's what we expect from you and being overly sensitive. See how that works? Double question marks noted. Yea, "somehow" denying how you certainly can help that. As I said, so many of your posts come across as...
  7. Wrangler

    Exploring Trinitarian Logic

    I did not realize that. To my way of thinking, there are only 2 basic ways to get deeper into ancient text - of any kind: Better grasp foreign language. Better grasp culture I have an NSRV Cultural Bible that came out in 2017 as the Bible of the year. It has 10,000 study notes that give great...
  8. Wrangler

    Exploring Trinitarian Logic

    Are you? YHWH is the only God (who we relate to as Father) and there is no other. The Father is the only true God, which means the trinitarian god is false. There is only one God, the Father, which means the trinity is NOT the one God of Scripture. True worshippers worship the Father, which...
  9. Wrangler

    Exploring Trinitarian Logic

    You have a lot of patience for these mystics who cannot express themselves but imbue divine wisdom to what is apparent jibberish.
  10. Wrangler

    Tasted Death for every Man !

    The more of his posts you read, you'll realize they are all basically like that. LOL
  11. Wrangler

    Tasted Death for every Man !

    It has to do with understanding logic. Consider two options, where one is true and the other is false. Ha. Jesus died for the justified. H0. Jesus did NOT die for the justified. (Jesus died to save all who believe in him, even though they are not justified.) If people were justified...
  12. Wrangler

    Exploring Trinitarian Logic

    Not a reason not to actually answer his questions. Yet, we all know you do not engage in discussion. Rather, you use every thread and post to spring board truisms and lately, dire warnings against interfaith. For a change in routine, why not sincerely answer his questions (if he does not...
  13. Wrangler

    Exploring Trinitarian Logic

    Quoting Scripture is a reportable post, in your estimation? Geesh!
  14. Wrangler

    Tasted Death for every Man !

    This is sad doctrine. If others were justified independent of Christ’s sacrifice, there was no need for the son of God to be sacrificed.
  15. Wrangler

    Tasted Death for every Man !

    Generally, for all mankind, yes. Without exception, no. IMO, there is no need to parse ‘mankind’ with ‘many! given the context of other verses that @keithr nicely compiled for us. In my experience, many struggle to properly discern God’s word. We’ve been indoctrinated to abhor general truths...
  16. Wrangler

    Covering up traces on Biden cases in Ukraine. What documents and why were destroyed at the US Embass

    This is not Islamic Jihad but totalitarian wannabes, the global elite meet at the WEF. Only Klaus Schwab Knows For Sure The road to hell is paved with good intentions. They convince themselves their intention, to ‘save the planet’ is good, implying the existence of the masses is bad. I do...
  17. Wrangler

    Exploring Trinitarian Logic

    More to the point, the trinity contradicts Scripture's definition of God being a single person. Try to construct a stronger antitrinitarian formula in as few a words as there is one God, the Father. To listen to trinitarians, all we have is these vague verses that require us to read into it...
  18. Wrangler

    Biden, in 11th hour action, bans new offshore oil and gas drilling in most federal waters

    War is never in the interest of the people. It's just another big government program.
  19. Wrangler

    Doctrine doesn’t matter as much as love

    This is the emotion not the verb. English does not have words that directly correspond to the 8 Greek words. However, I believe love and the emotion associated with it, make it an inferior rendering. Compassion is the better, universal word, that we are commanded. A young friend shared things...
  20. Wrangler

    Exploring Trinitarian Logic

    Jesus is 100% what Scripture says he is, over and over and over again; a man. Begotten is proof text Jesus is NOT God for it means created and God is not created but the Creator.