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    Isaiah 65:17 vs. Revelation 21:1. How many NHNEs does that equal?

    Let us have a literal word-by-word look at the Hebrew pertaining to Isaiah 65:20. לֹא־יִֽהְיֶ֨ה מִשָּׁ֜ם עֹ֗וד ע֤וּל יָמִים֙ וְזָקֵ֔ן אֲשֶׁ֥ר Lo'- yihªyeh mishaam `owd `uwl yaamiym wªzaaqeen 'ªsher Not be hence more an infant [of] days, an old man after לֹֽא־יְמַלֵּ֖א אֶת־יָמָ֑יו כִּ֣י...
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    Isaiah 65:17 vs. Revelation 21:1. How many NHNEs does that equal?

    This is all you have: personal speculation, elaborate theories and carnal reasoning. You have no Scripture to bring to the table. There is nothing in Revelation 20 or any other Scripture that supports this. The reality is: we are in Revelation 20 now; we might even be on the verge of Satan's...
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    Isaiah 65:17 vs. Revelation 21:1. How many NHNEs does that equal?

    I notice you do not quote Scripture. To do so might actually help you see its placement. This is referring to our day - "the last days." This is more Scripture that proves Amil. In fact, wherever you look Scripture is plainly Amil. Isaiah 2:2-4 says, speaking of the Lord’s first Advent, “And it...
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    Isaiah 65:17 vs. Revelation 21:1. How many NHNEs does that equal?

    You are arguing with the passage itself. We do not need to explain it away. Let the Bible speak for itself. Romans 8:16-23 declares, “The Spirit itself beareth witness with our spirit, that we are the children of God: And if children, then heirs; heirs of God, and joint-heirs with Christ; if so...
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    Isaiah 65:17 vs. Revelation 21:1. How many NHNEs does that equal?

    None of this is in the Word. It is what you have been taught or thought up. The wicked are all destroyed when Jesus comes. There is no wicked to overrun your millennium.
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    Isaiah 65:17 vs. Revelation 21:1. How many NHNEs does that equal?

    Before I address this, can you address where we left off? There is a direct connection between the liberation of “creation” and the liberation of the “sons of God.” Both the creature and creation are waiting for “the adoption, [to wit], the redemption of our body” – or resurrection day. This...
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    Isaiah 65:17 vs. Revelation 21:1. How many NHNEs does that equal?

    Satan is under Christ’s kingship today. Jesus defeated him on his own playing field 2000 years ago. He now rules over him. Satan was spiritually bound through the earthly ministry of Christ, he is consequently limited in his power, influence and movement today. His territory has been invaded...
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    25 reasons why you should abandon Premillennialism

    I am adding this to my list. I give Timtofly a shout out for highlighting this today. (25) Premillennialists have no answer to the climactic detail of “the day of the Lord” passages like 1 Thessalonians 5 and 2 Peter 3 in Scripture. To allow their beliefs, they normally reject the idea that...
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    Isaiah 65:17 vs. Revelation 21:1. How many NHNEs does that equal?

    There is absolutely no mention of your supposed future millennium here. You're adding on to Scripture again. You are so fixated with this time that does not exist in the Bible that you force it into the sacred text where it does not belong. After talking about the righteous and their eternal...
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    Isaiah 65:17 vs. Revelation 21:1. How many NHNEs does that equal?

    How can you possibly equate the millennial earth to the new heavens and new earth? They are polar opposites. The millennial earth you profess contains sin. The new earth does not contain sin. The millennial earth you profess contains death. The new earth does not contain death. The millennial...
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    Isaiah 65:17 vs. Revelation 21:1. How many NHNEs does that equal?

    So, your supposed future millennium is a day of ongoing destruction and desolation? After all, a "day" in Scripture, regardless of how long, is always marked for its duration by the detail attributed to it. I prefer the perfect and righteous Amil new earth to your depressing hope.
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    Will The New Heaven And Earth Be A (Renewal-Regeneration) Of This Earth, Or Will It Be A Completely (New Creation)?

    I already addressed this, and you already avoided the reply. Posters can see my rebuttal and your avoidance here: https://www.christianityboard.com/threads/24-reasons-why-i-abandoned-premillennialism.60604/post-1749708
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    25 reasons why you should abandon Premillennialism

    You didn't actually address one single point I made in your response. You pretty much simply cut and paste what you had previous said. This is a common trait in your posts. Please address my scriptural arguments. The Hebrew word bârâ' means to create, shape, form or fashion. In Scripture it...
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    Isaiah 65:17 vs. Revelation 21:1. How many NHNEs does that equal?

    Where does it say in Rev 20 (or in Scripture) that your sin-cursed goat-infested death-blighted millennium is "a near edenic like state"?
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    Isaiah 65:17 vs. Revelation 21:1. How many NHNEs does that equal?

    When Amils refute David he does that. That is his MO. Just look back over this past few pages where he has no support for his claims or a response to the biblical evidence that points to Amil. He has been doing this on other boards for years. Most Amils on here can confirm that. Just count it as...
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    Will The New Heaven And Earth Be A (Renewal-Regeneration) Of This Earth, Or Will It Be A Completely (New Creation)?

    You might be interested in this detailed post. This is why "Truth" started this thread: 24 reasons to reject Premillennialism He had no rebuttal for it - just a cut-and-paste.
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    Will The New Heaven And Earth Be A (Renewal-Regeneration) Of This Earth, Or Will It Be A Completely (New Creation)?

    I agree. What God created, and man corrupted, will be restored, renewed and revealed. That is what God does!
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    25 reasons why you should abandon Premillennialism

    I have no major issue with your argument. This is an in-house difference of perspective. I am sure we agree on most of the essentials re the coming arrangement. So, our disagreement is probably minor in the grand scheme of things. The Bible does indeed tell us: God makes “all things new.”...
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    25 reasons why you should abandon Premillennialism

    (22) Premil takes common linguistic terms that are easily understood by the unindoctrinated observer in any language to mean the opposite to what they actually say. For example, Premil does not believe that "first" means first and "last" means last. The English words “first” and “last” are taken...
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    Isaiah 65:17 vs. Revelation 21:1. How many NHNEs does that equal?

    There is a direct connection between the liberation of “creation” and the liberation of the “sons of God.” Both the creature and creation are waiting for “the adoption, [to wit], the redemption of our body” – or resurrection day. This is the day when both will simultaneously be delivered from...