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  1. BreadOfLife

    No authority!

    And YOUR folly -and there are MANY - is that you are a Sola Scripturist. NOWHERE does Scripture tell us that Scripture ALONE is our "Sole Authority". In fact - Scripture tells s that the CHURCH is our FINAL earthly Authrority (Matt. 16:18-19, Matt. 18:15-18, Luke 10:16, John 16:12-15, John...
  2. BreadOfLife

    No authority!

    Uhhhh, NO - this was ONLY given to His inner circle. Jesus never issued this commisson to the crowds - NEVER. He sais to His Apostles in the Upper Room: John 20:21-23 "Peace be with you. As the Father has sent ME, so I send YOU." And when he had said this, he breathed on them and said to...
  3. BreadOfLife

    No authority!

    WHY can't you just answer any of my questions?? I have asked you repeatedly - not to deny, but to REFUTE the verses that illustrate the need for a ministerial priesthood. You dance around it and hurl denials - but no subtance. - WHY does Jesus NOT gtive the power to forgive other's sins to the...
  4. BreadOfLife

    No authority!

    So, per Matt. 16:15-18 - say, you do what is instructed and take 2 or 3 witnesses with you to confront the one who sinned against you. WHERE do you go from there? Jesus said that the next step was to take it to the CHURCH - the final earthly Auhority. I eagerly await your Biblically sound...
  5. BreadOfLife

    No authority!

    And that's where you're wrong. Just because YOU reject the God-given Authority of Christ's Church - doesn't make it "untrue". In fact, all it means is that YOU'VE put YOUR conditions on God - instead of the other way around. This Authority is supreme - that WHATEVER His Church declares on...
  6. BreadOfLife

    No authority!

    No - "All believers" do NOT have the power to bind and loose. YOU are taking these verses out of context - like you do the REST of Scripture. Matt. 18:15-6 (also, v. 19-20) are about forgiving personal sin against YOU by a brother. Matt. 16:18-19, M1tt. 18-17-18, John 20:21-23 is about...
  7. BreadOfLife

    No authority!

    The point I'm making is that there is an obvious and overt clergy/laity distionction in the NT. To deny this is to deny Scripture. And yes - we are ALL a nation of priests. But the very definition of a priest is a mediator - one who ooffers up sacrifice. When Jesus is called our ONE Mediator...
  8. BreadOfLife

    No authority!

    Sooooo, WHY do you keep on ignoring the verses that precede this?? Matt. 18:17-18 is talking Church Authority - and that disobedience to the Church means excommunication. Paul also taught about this (1 Cor. 5:9-13, 1 Tim. 1:20). Verses 19-20 reference what Jesus was saying in verse 16: "If he...
  9. BreadOfLife

    No authority!

    I completely agree with your statement in RED. However, what you refuse to see is that these "many people" are the clergy. As for your second statement, it has been proven wrong - repeatedly. I have proven the clergy/laity distinction several times from Scripture and other than simple and...
  10. BreadOfLife

    No authority!

    WRONG again. The "US" and the "WE" that Paul mentioned in these verses is NOT the laity - biut the clergy. The laity is "YOU". 2 Cor. 5:18-20: “And all this is from God, who has reconciled us to himself through Christ and given US the ministry of reconciliation, namely, God was reconciling the...
  11. BreadOfLife

    No authority!

    And yet, you couldn't refute a SINGLE verse I presented. Good job . . .
  12. BreadOfLife

    No authority!

    You don't actuallr READ the posts - do you? I already adreedd these verses - and in the original GREEK. Hre they are again . . . Paul makes the following statement in defense of his priestly function: Rom 15:14-16 I myself am satisfied about you, my brothers, that you yourselves are full of...
  13. BreadOfLife

    No authority!

    In other words, you have failed again tto refute these verses. That's what I figured . . .
  14. BreadOfLife

    No authority!

    Well, since your fellow anti-Catholic, @Ferris Bueller failed so completely to refute the following passages that describe a MINISTERIAL Prosthood - perhaps YOU can: Rom. 15:16, 2 Cor. 5:18-20, 2 Cor. 2:10, James 5-14-15 I eagerly await your educated response . . .
  15. BreadOfLife

    Mary’s children?

    Uhhhh, no - you responded but you DIDN'T answer ANY of the Scriptural OR linguistic evidence I presented. Please DO so . . .
  16. BreadOfLife

    No authority!

    And as I have repeatedly proven you wrong - the Bible disagrees with you (Rom. 15:16, 2 Cor. 5:18-20, 2 Cor. 2:10, James 5-14-15). ALL of these verses decribe PRIESTLY functions by a Ministerial Priesthood within the Body of Christ.
  17. BreadOfLife

    No authority!

    You are absolutely correct about your statement above in RED. ALL of us are called to evangelize. But that's NOT what these verses are about (2 Cor. 5:18-20, 2 Cor. 2:10). They are about the Ministry of Reconciliation entrusted to the Clergy (John 20:21-23) - and NOT the Laity. This is why...
  18. BreadOfLife

    Mary’s children?

    "Brother" automatically means biological?? Ummmmm, can you explain to me then WHY out of the 344 times "Adelphos" is used in the NT - only 41 (12%) are referring to "biological" siblings? I'll wait here for an educated response . . . As for your nonsense about the Bible NOT mentioning Mary's...
  19. BreadOfLife

    Mary’s children?

    It's funny how YOU speak pof the wilignes to "abandon logic" when it comes to Mary's Perpetual virginity - yet YOU are the one who is arguing that the Greek word for "Brother" (Adelphos) can ONLY mean "uterine brother" - then you give the following ridiculous example from post #15: "If have a...
  20. BreadOfLife

    No authority!

    Hey - YOU'RE the one who keeps chiming in. If you don't have answers - then why horn in on a conversation that doesn't concern you? HUH?? No it doesn't. When it says "the MAN Jesus Christ" - that means He is God in the flesh. Then explain it to me . . . And the bottom line here is that the...