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Amen @Nancy agree :) I think we maybe 'getting there' I am a slow learner... Ha!

I think they just can’t find anything better to do, Rita...:D,

Whatever....more of the same....

Rom5:8 " But God commendeth his love toward us, in that, while we were yet sinners, Christ died for us." I hardly think that going around telling people they are going to hell is the ministry of reconciliation....o_O 2 Cor 5 19 " To wit, that God was in Christ, reconciling the world unto...

Agree. It amazes me how people "fight to the death" as it were, over a doctrine which is man made and the word trinity is not in the bible ..and more that the word rapture is. I actually happen to 'see' the trinity as it is called...so I am "one of them" ...but two friends on this forum do...

Perish = "lest ye are lost in respect to the way," Peter lost his way...he didn't lose his salvation...many lose their way and slip off the path... "blessed are all they who put their trust in Him...He knows the way...His way is not bumpy.... I see not argument here. It is still not...

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Well, if that is how you read it..then okay..I guess you must. I don't. Someone once said " Jesus talked more about hell than anything else" And people chose to believe that without even checking it out!! Our choice...

I'm not into to arguing with anyone.....I just state what 'I' believe ...I do not believe it is a prerequisite for salvation...

All very true...but the 'argument/discussion' is, whether it makes a difference in our initial salvation...it does NOT. What you quote is fact , but nowhere is there a verse saying " If you don't believe this, or if you don't believe the trinity. Or is you don't believe Jesus was God...you are...

No, but it sure was not 40 years ago. It says the female movie stars started it...but not sure about that. Maybe it happened, but did not 'catch on' until the movie start made it a fashion statement. I'd say 20, not 40. But I am no expert for sure. lol

I see nowhere where it says we must believe that Jesus is the great I AM and that saves us!! o_O Your verse says " I am He.." I am He what? The Open Door... The perfect last Lamb sacrifice... Our salvation does not hang on whether Jesus is God or not...it hangs on His BLOOD shed which took...

If you went away I would never be "happy". :(

I liked it better when you used your own words. :)

Again...if you read a bit on this forum you would see that I will never play the silly- " show me your verse and I will show you mine." Anything at all can be proved or disproved via some cherry picked favourite verse... I won't do it. Jesus opened the way...we either enjoy our earthly...

Agree. Also the beauty of water baptism is a strong weapon in time of spiritual battle...we have a day to point to say say to the devil..."I died with Him...I am raised with Him...I am IN Him..." We resist from the position of power in Christ. Not one person told me why I was being baptised...

I agree mostly...but I do not see it as "one physical man"... I see it as a system driven by a few at the top...but, who knows...we will know it when it is revealed. Like the Children of Israel in the wilderness...their sin was unbelief. And unbelief and rejection of God and all He stand...

I was baptised in water 6 weeks after I became a believer...but personally, unless it is spiritually understand and not just the actual exercise of doing it...it is just an empty ritual with no power. Just something to check off as a "to do" list that we are told to do when we are new...

1 Cor 15 "For as in Adam all die, even so in Christ shall all be made alive." You don't think God started this thing without a perfect Plan do you?o_O

Of course children go to heaven...and aborted babies go to heaven. Heaven is God Himself. There is no place were God isn't....