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    A Test Of Reading Comprehension and Honesty

    Yes not apostles, the reason I used this verse is to show those with hardness of heart cannot be saved. The apostles are in the same boat with these folks. They(apostles) had hardened their hearts. You are trying to convince me that folks with hardened hearts will be saved and in heaven. All...
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    Renewable Salvation

    So, if you never loose your trust in God, then you are waiting on Him to perform good works through you. What then do we think of those who trust in Christ but show no good works in there lives? I'm guessing you would say they never really trusted in Jesus. Therefore if true Biblical saving...
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    Renewable Salvation

    Please elaborate, are you suggesting that God does the work of believing for us? Or do we believe on our own free will? Also do you agree that obeying Gods commandments are works? Thanks, so you believe the good works you do, is not you doing them but God doing those works through you. aka...
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    The thief on the cross misconceptions

    Peter taught what I teach on baptism and all my brethren around the world are not excluded. So did Paul, Acts 22:16. I've still yet to see a new testament scripture from you that says baptism is for the already saved. Cornelius is certainly not an example. Never heard any apostle teach it. Only...
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    Renewable Salvation

    No, I believe in what Paul, Jesus and all the apostles doctrine. That's what I follow, Acts 2:42. John records that Jesus teaches faith is a work, John 6:28-29. Do you believe when you obey Gods commandments that you have done a work?
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    Renewable Salvation

    Excellent point, If ye(that's us being told to do something) keep in memory, Our salvation is dependent on us keeping, believing the gospel of Jesus Christ. Paul never taught we do nothing and God does everything. If so, don't bother teaching others the gospel, that's Gods job, He does...
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    Renewable Salvation

    Where was I wrong now? You say we do nothing to be saved. Where does the Bible teach this?
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    The thief on the cross misconceptions

    All new testament christians believe what Jesus said, Mark 16:15-16. I'm not beyond help are you?
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    Renewable Salvation

    How would you know? You don't know me from Adam. Its unwise and dis-honest to make claims about others you know little to nothing about. I would never make a statement of fact about how much you study, the way you did with me. Now Ephesians 2:8-9, - Where and How were the Ephesians saved? I'll...
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    The thief on the cross misconceptions

    Yes, help me find your doctrine on baptism being for the purpose of outward sign of an already saved believer. I've never found the NT, teach this doctrine on baptism in Jesus' name. All I've found is baptism is for the lost to contact the blood of Christ, Matthew 26:28, - For this is My blood...
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    Renewable Salvation

    If salvation has nothing to do with what I do then I don't need to believe. For believing is doing, Acts 16:30-31, - And he brought them out and said Sirs, what must I  do to be saved. Charlie24 says it is not what we do. Is that Paul's response to the Philippian Jailer? Verse 31, - So they...
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    The thief on the cross misconceptions

    We are to speak the oracles of God, 1Peter 4:11 Instead of Trinity the Bible speaks of Godhead. That is good enough for me. Instead of an outward sign of already being saved... 1Peter 3:20-21, - who formerly were disobedient when once the Divine longsuffering waited in the days of Noah, while...
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    The thief on the cross misconceptions

    Post #245 No, Read Colossians 2:9. This question is redirecting the conversation off topic. I'm not claiming baptism is not for the remission of sins, Acts 2:38. I'm not claiming baptism does not save us, 1Peter 3:20-21. I'm not claiming baptism is for already saved Christians. And this is the...
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    A Test Of Reading Comprehension and Honesty

    The only way Jesus' disciples could be saved was to believe Jesus rose from the dead. 1Corinthians 15:1-4 death, burial, ressurection. You want to build an argument on faith in Jesus but not faith in His ressurection is still Biblical saving faith. They were not saved during their unbelief and...
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    The thief on the cross misconceptions

    Already gave you the answer, 1Peter 3:20-21. When will one of you show where the Bible says NT baptism is an outward display of an already saved Christian?
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    The thief on the cross misconceptions

    None of those examples taught baptism was for an outward sign of already being saved. Ethiopian Eunch was baptized in a desert all alone with Philip, Acts 8:37-38. No one has verified yet that the NT baptism in the name of Jesus is because one is already saved. Acts 2:38, repent...be baptized...
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    A Test Of Reading Comprehension and Honesty

    Peter did loose faith in Jesus. You are contradicting the Bible. Just as you contradicted the Bible when it says Simon believed and you say no he did not. Jesus said their hearts were hardened. Mark 16:14, - Later Jesus appeared to the eleven as they sat at the table; and Jesus rebuked their...
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    A Test Of Reading Comprehension and Honesty

    If that cannot be a description of a born again christian, then according to you Christians today are incapable of committing sins that go against Jesus. Give scripture that a Christian cannot commit sins, like unbelief or murder or preaching for earthly gain. These are all sins like Simon...
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    The thief on the cross misconceptions

    Acts 10:35, -- But in every nation whoever fears Him, and works righteousness is accepted by Him.
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    The thief on the cross misconceptions

    You must show where the Bible calls obeying Gods will a work of merit. Where does the Bible teach obeying Gods commandments like repentance and baptism which are works of righteousness. Is meritorious salvation? Faith without obedience to Gods commandments like repentance and baptism is not...