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People are typically not "deluded". -- They're simply DISOBEDIENT. And there is ALWAYS a price to be paid for being DISOBEDIENT! :) Luke 22:35 And he said to them, “When I sent you out with no purse or bag or sandals, did you lack anything?” They said, “Nothing.” 36 He said to them, “But now...

You're exactly correct. Rumsfeld said, (and he stole the quote): there are known knowns; there are known unknowns; but there are also unknown unknowns. You're in the unknown unknowns, but acting as though you're in the known knowns. And another famous quote is: ignorance can be cured, but...

I do understand "excuses". And people use a lot of them to avoid the TRUTH. :) Bobby Jo

DON'T WAIT. Check out what I'm presenting that has already been fulfilled, and then you might have enough confidence in Bible Prophecy to believe what is coming next. Where do you want to start, -- the Daniel 2 FIVE world empires versus the 4a/4b we're told? Or how about the 11:2 three more...

Go ahead, give yourself into the hands of men and see if YOUR outcome is any different than what the JEWS experienced. Good Luck, Bobby Jo

Ummmmmmm, he told YOU to provide for yourself, -- as His last instructions before going to the garden: Luke 22:35 And he said to them, “When I sent you out with no purse or bag or sandals, did you lack anything?” They said, “Nothing.” 36 He said to them, “But now, let him who has a purse take...

The B57 was designed to take out enemy nuclear submarines, but they were dismantled in the mid-90's. -- So we shouldn't expect nuclear weapons to destroy the fish & ships of the world's oceans: Rev. 8:9 And a third of the living creatures in the sea died, and a third of the ships were...

It appear that GOD has "tricked" the church with a "riddle" that cannot be solved, -- because if one were to ask any member of this Forum if they were "wise" and have "understanding", all would assert "YES". So it can't be the individuals on his Forum, thus GOD must be the "trickster" ...

Stubborn? -- NO! -- INFORMED. I've substantiated FACTS, -- which you've not refuted with YOUR FACTS. You already know that Walvoord cited the best scholars for his book "Daniel, The Key To Prophetic Revelation", where he recognized from Young, Keil, & Kliefoth that the seventy "sevens" are...

... still waiting for December 8th to mark what will be a climatic series of events which will include Israel dropping nuclear weapons on it's own north-central vicinity ...

Daniel's book was unsealed in the late 1700's (Chapter 7); 1924 (Chapter 9); and at the advent of WWI (Chapter 11). But YOU assign ANCIENT fulfillments, -- you are in worse error than a preterist. And there is NO 70 x 7, anymore than you need a coat, gloves, & hat to ride in a "cool" car...

I believe if you don't follow Jesus' last instructions before the garden, then you WON'T have someone to help you when you think ... Luke 22:35 And he said to them, “When I sent you out with no purse or bag or sandals, did you lack anything?” They said, “Nothing.” 36 He said to them, “But now...

When David was about to be punished for his census, out of this three choices, he rejected the one where he falls into the hands of this enemies. David was wise. -- Will you gladly fall into the hands of men? Bobby Jo

... where the strong men perished, and Jesus (according to some) appeared in the midst of the furnace. But the last words Jesus spoke before going to the garden requires OUR Purse, Bag, and Sword. If you don't want to follow Jesus' directions, then there will be no -saviour- in YOUR fiery...

A lot of Christians and Jews "had the Seal of God", but they were worked and starved to death, and ended up in the ovens. No worries. It'll be an exciting experience! :) Bobby Jo

Hate to break the news, but GOD Wrote the Scriptures. And the Scriptures warn us of a time when we can't buy or sell. -- And if this circumstance either alarms you or doesn't alarm you, -- it WILL come to pass. Like the old children's call: Ready or not ... Bobby Jo

I don't think Bible Prophecy is ~running wild with imaginations~. Perhaps you should start by studying the SOURCE rather than looking at other people. -- And you might include the premise where you won't be able to -- buy or sell --. Bobby Jo

Do you use your PURSE to equip your BAG, and do you have a SWORD?!? It's a life principle which is during your WHOLE LIFE, and covers ALL circumstances including the Tribulation. Or you don't have to have a spare tire in your car, food in your pantry, wood for winter, and no provisions for...

You're CORRECT. It doesn't apply to just you or me. It applies to ALL Christians. After all, WE ARE HIS DISCIPLES ALSO: Matt. 28:19 Go therefore and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit, ... Bobby Jo

It seems you've strayed from the discussion, where an angel (OT) instructed Daniel to "shut up and seal the words of the book until the time of the end". Now if you don't want to believe the angel's instructions to Daniel, then you disregard Scripture. Secondly, Daniel's Book is written for...