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And there you go again. Right off the bat, you continue to LIE because you cannot debate the facts. I have told you at least 10 times now that the Cathollic Church does NOT teach that water saves us - yet you continue to pull this rabbit out of your hat. In your desperation, you HAVE to lie...

Sooooo - you're saying that the Catholic Church was created in 383? Can you show me the official documentation that prmulgated the "creation" of Church during this time? I didn't think so, Einstein . . .

You're dodging the question, as usual. I didn't ask you which doctrines you don't like. I asked you to prove to me that there was a "tiny remnant" that survivied thoughout the centuries that was the "TRUE Church" - and was revived at the Protestan Revolt in the 16th century.

Another ignorant cop out. There werre MANY Books that were considered to be Scripture prior to the Catholic Church's declaration in 383 AD about the official Canon. They were weeded out by the God-given Authority of the Catholic Church - not ANY Protestant denomination or Lone Ranger renegade...

Well, that's the problem, isn't it Einstein? If this is correct - the PROVE it.

The compilation of the Scriptures cannot be determined by Sola Scriptura. It can ONLY be determined by God-given Authority.

In other words - the Bible doesn't tell you which Books belong in it. You had to learn this from the CHURCH. YOU didn't figure it out on your own . . .

If you know your Bible - WHY would you even bother to say someting this silly? Jesus didn't say . . . John 6:53 “Truly, truly, I say to you, unless you eat crackers and drink juice, you have no life in you. He said: John 6:53-56 “Truly, truly, I say to you, unless you eat the flesh of the Son...

The Catholic Church goes all the way back to the Apostles themselves. Peter and Paul built the Church in Rome. Here's what John's student - and 1st century Bishop, Ignatius of Antioch had to say about this Church - while John was presumably STILL alive: Ignatius of Antioch Follow your bishop...

Yup - by inventing new doctrines for themselves and encouraging their followers to invent new ones as well. That's why there are tens of thousands of your bickering factions that ALL claim to have "the truth". Good job . . .

The fact that you keep making the SAME dishonest arguments illustrates that you have run OUT of ammunition. I have repeatedly shown that Paul was using HYPERBOLIC language in 1 Cor. 1:17 when he said he was NOT sent to Baptize. I repeatedly showed you WHY he wrote this to the Corinthian Church...

Thank you for that skewed version of history. It wasn't the reforms that the Church objected to - which WERE needed. It was the perversion of existing doctrines and the invention of NEW doctrines. It wasn't a "Reformation" so much as it was a Revolt - complete with new doctrines invented by...

And nobody said it was. It IS, however, glorified FLESH - not corruptible flesh. Jesus is in Heaven - BODILY and spiritually.

The Catholic Church is the original Tree from which Protestantism splintered - and is perpetually-splintering todat. When you come this realization - you go back to the original Tree.

Ummmmm, not sure where you're going with this rant - but we were discussing whther or not the Apostles had been Baptized. Please stick to the topic of the cponversation - or move out of the way . . .

Funny though, that Truther can't point to a verse that says Baptism should be withheld from children. Now that's funny . . .

Like I told you before - they are two completely distinct individuals. The fact that you're ignorant about this lends credence to the idea that you are ignorant about many other things. STUDY your Bible, dude . . .

And according to YOUR moronic logic - after the Apostles died, the Chgurch disappeared - except for a tiny "remnant" - then reappeared in the 16th century. Talk about man-made fairy tales . . .

Yup - this happened at the Protestant Revolt some 500 years ago - and has been happening ever since . . .

The Apostles LIVED with Jesus - who TAUGHT them to Baptize. YOU don't think that they were Baptized because you're a Sola Scripturist - which is a self-refuting, anti-Biblical place to be. EVERY person in that Upper Room on Pentecost was probably already Baptized as well. As for the 3000 people...