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The whole objective of God's communication with humanity is Jesus. Without seeing this, and learning to interpret it that way, scripture becomes a riddle that any man and his dog can interpret according to their preference. The disciples never saw this in the three odd years of their...

You have conflated (look the word up in the dictionary) my words with your Democratic Party. I live in Australia and don't give a tinkers toss about your political processes. Try and read my words objectively! (meaning not through your personal political lens)

well, thank you. I s'pose having a good sniffer requires a suitable picker. :)

Your willingness to conflate sets you up for the ability to cobble any irreconcilable factors together.

The Seals are all messages of woe......they are to do with suffering and specifically, the problem of suffering. We are told John wept and wept because no one could be found to open the scroll. In retrospect this becomes clear.....in other words, John panicked/distraught because it appeared...

Thanks for the question. Well, it's the third angel. Have you seen or has it been reported in the news of the other two angels flying in mid heaven doing a 'world tour' ? Angels in this context are metaphors for messengers/messages.

I s'pose if the cup is full, the cup is full. Interpreting the OT like Christ denying Rabbi's ensures what is needed to be seen is missed.

only believers huh!.....that's convenient....it justifies bad mouthing, it keeps one 'safe' in ones little club and makes certain love only remains a word in the dictionary. Luke 6:32 “For if you love those who love you, what goodness do you have? Even sinners love those who love them.”

You say, 'Time in heaven is not and cannot be the same as earthly time' yet you continue and calculate Heaven time by Earth time. You have just nullified your own assertion!

and what do you do with 'take the plank out of your own eye so you can see clearly before you take the splinter out of your brother's'?

'Age of Grace'...ending? How long did Noah preach for?....what did he tell the people? Who got him to build a boat? and who was it for if it wasn't for those he was preaching to? The animals came...but men didn't. They were clever in their own eyes. God knew there was going to be a disaster...

as if people don't know, religion and hypocrisy are bedfellows......but what has that to do with Jesus?

so you think this metaphor is to be understood literally?......and by the way, it's Revelation 14

so why didn't Jesus sort out those who where nailing him down?

It appears you know little about grace Enoch, yet plenty about payback!

'living it up' assumes value. I suppose the prodigal Son got value in 'living it up'? Were there consequences for this guy? Forgetting evil has its own demise built in is the realm of foolishness. 'You will surely die' was his definitive statement from the outset.....has it been forgotten?

imbibing media reports manifests in... 1.....I have greater intelligence 2....I am smarter than those I don't like 3....My conclusions questioned confirms the lack of intelligence of the questioner.

could you show me from the scripture?....eternity of suffering ie

Seeing is your treasure ViJ. If others don't see, don't want to see or refuse to see; if others get their nose outta joint or want to consign you to the flames, that's their problem. All the jumping up and down, their many words and attempted force of their logic needs be water off a ducks back...

I think 'healing' has greater meaning than the physical. Our ideas, our thoughts, our emotions will all require healing. The primary reason there is so much dissension on the boards is because we are sick. Our healing will be towards understanding that which is higher than the heavens, wider...