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  1. Wrangler

    THE Trinity can Now be discussed.

    A problem I had with NKJV is that even though they removed archaic words, like thee and thou, the sentence structure remained archaic. I felt like I was reading the Gospel of Yoda. I hope right you are. Misread, the prophecy could be. Even for a Jedi, time to rest. This slowed the pace of...
  2. Wrangler

    THE Trinity can Now be discussed.

    NLT. It has become my go to translation. A great balance between readability and academic notes that had great depth of understanding. My wife just bought Spiritual Journey NLT. Mine is Every Man’s Bible. Highly recommend due to biographies and Man-Women-God sections. Maps are great also.
  3. Wrangler

    THE Trinity can Now be discussed.

    I’m sure I explained this many times. Nothing about the trinity. And try reading the whole chapter to u understand the verse in context. Long ago God spoke many times and in many ways to our ancestors through the prophets. 2 And now in these final days, he has spoken to us through his Son. God...
  4. Wrangler

    THE Trinity can Now be discussed.

    I’m a monotheist who believes in the trinity. I’m a libertarian who believes in slavery. I’m an advocate of education who subscribes to the death penalty if anyone is caught reading - or teaching. I belief is science and believe transgender women can get pregnant. I accept definitions and an...
  5. Wrangler

    THE Trinity can Now be discussed.

    The Bible identifies only one God, the Father. This doesn’t jive with the 3-in-1 doctrine.
  6. Wrangler

    THE Trinity can Now be discussed.

    Only if words have no meaning. 1. 3in1. Not the same.
  7. Wrangler

    THE Trinity can Now be discussed.

    Below is a non-responsive reply. The question was does it make sense that God has a God. A simple yes or no answer please.
  8. Wrangler

    THE Trinity can Now be discussed.

    Very well put. In case you haven’t read through all these posts, there are 3 questions these IDOLATORS keep ignoring: Does it make sense that God has a God? What Scripture verse says why it is important ti believe the trinity. If the eisegesis take of John 1:1 is correct, why isn’t it...
  9. Wrangler

    THE Trinity can Now be discussed.

    You’d do well to answer questions put to you. A pre-requisite to understanding my answer is to understand that Jesus’ glory varies with time. If one holds to him possessing invariable glory nothing about this makes sense. You cannot look at 17:5 as a stand alone verse but in the context of...
  10. Wrangler

    THE Trinity can Now be discussed.

    Agreed. He could not be clearer in 20:31. It says NOTHING about the trinity.
  11. Wrangler

    THE Trinity can Now be discussed.

    I already answered this twice.
  12. Wrangler

    THE Trinity can Now be discussed.

    ‘the word’ = words credited to God, either directly or through an agent, such as Angel, prophet or son. The Greek word ‘logos’ expands beyond word to include logic, thought or plan, meaning it does not have to be spoken or written. No. Your question is beyond what is stated in Scripture. We...
  13. Wrangler

    THE Trinity can Now be discussed.

    I already answered this question twice. Can’t answer my questions?
  14. Wrangler

    THE Trinity can Now be discussed.

    Oh, I thought my answer made that clear; God’s plan to give him all authority on Earth and heaven. BTW, I consider chapter 17 to be the REAL, heart felt Lord’s Prayer, rather than the cerebral one we are taught. The angst Jesus has for his fate and the fate of his friends is palpable here. Did...
  15. Wrangler

    THE Trinity can Now be discussed.

    God is outside time. His creation, including his son, our lord, is in time.
  16. Wrangler

    THE Trinity can Now be discussed.

    God’s plan is in place before time existed.
  17. Wrangler

    THE Trinity can Now be discussed.

    An invalid question, implying a premise not in evidence. There is no there there. A twinkle in his father’s eyes - as all son’s are before they are created. Jeremiah 1:5 applies to Jesus as well as us. “Before I formed you in the womb I knew you, before you were born I set you apart; I...
  18. Wrangler

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    No one. Words are WHAT’s not WHO’s.
  19. Wrangler

    THE Trinity can Now be discussed.

    Not one verse says Jesus is God. Not one verse says Jesus is the word! And I see you are still dodging the question of the importance of believing your doctrine from the POV of Scripture verses?
  20. Wrangler

    THE Trinity can Now be discussed.

    I'm not getting around it. You are reading into it and did not answer my question that if your take is correct, why doesn't his purpose statement say so in 20:31? And more fundamentally, 2 is not 3. Nothing in John 1 supports the trinity.