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Isaiah 14 12How art thou fallen from heaven, O Lucifer, son of the morning! how art thou cut down to the ground, which didst weaken the nations! 13For thou hast said in thine heart, I will ascend into heaven, I will exalt my throne above the stars of God: I will sit also upon the mount of the...

I'm glad you approve, but my view of the afterlife in Sheol is that there is unequivocally no such thing. I think the cat of my affiliation is out of the bag, but thanks for your advice. :) By the way, the opposition of eternal torment is a position that is growing exponentially outside of the...

Thank you, dear lady. :)

No, I compare Scripture with Scripture. I'm not obsessed with an idea that goes contrary to the overwhelming preponderance of evidence contained in Scripture about God's loving character--that of a non-monster type. I'm sorry you're obsessed with an ultra-literal interpretation of 1 Corinthians...

Speaking of egos: You're all spic-and-span, I guess, eh? No flies on you? "God, I thank thee, that I am not as other men are, extortioners, unjust, adulterers..." We must sin as you sin, or we must not sin at all, right?

It's all covered in posts #7 and #8.

They are brought to ashes.

I have a serious problem with this part, in particular. :)

Your tone is like a judge handing down a binding decision, JBF. What we could do is to study the Bible more closely and vindicate God's character as not being that of a monster. :)

Pitting Scripture against itself. You can do that to manufacture any doctrine you like. Like the pagan-influenced, early church did to create eternal torment. God is not a monster.

What kind of a body do you think Adam and Eve had? Lucifer? They were perfect. The Bible says as much. The reason is freedom of choice. Fruit of the knowledge of good and evil or the fruit from the tree of life. In the new heavens and earth, it won't happen because we'll have the knowledge of...

How many times can you say the same thing over and over until your head goes numb?

Why do you say "you?" I thought we established that it was a hypothetical. I know I'm getting threads mixed up a little here, but I'm not sure you're treating the subject fairly. I have no intention of rebelling. But it happens--people do it all the time. Do you deny that? I lived with this...

"I'm sorry, I already 10-4ed ye." Neeetah... Wa-a-a Neeetah A slender, high-spirited person needs a pick-me-up late in the day. Boy, giraffes are selfish. Just run around lookin' after number one. Gettin' hit by lightning.

Here's a hoot: I'm watching TAGS right now on Amazon Prime Video and it says "RATED TV-NR Moderate foul language." Must be talking about Barney when he says: "Doggone you, Rube Sloane!!!" rotfl :cool:

Very, very confusing, TF.

I think that copyright is actually for the website as opposed to the publication itself (if that matters).

But if each person gets to decide for themselves which popes are valid, doesn't that effectively undermine the authority of the Catholic Church, in general? (Serious question, not provocation) :)

Amen to that, Brother. :)

You don't think Pope Francis is valid?