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Yeah, it says "great distress" instead of "great tribulation" in Luke 21, but it's the same thing.

He identified it as wrath, also. Luke 21:20 “But when you see Jerusalem surrounded by armies, then know that its desolation is near. 21 Then let those who are in Judea flee to the mountains, let those who are in the midst of her depart, and let not those who are in the country enter her. 22...

It obviously confuses you because you are turning the word "after" into "immediately after" even though the text does NOT indicate how long after the 69th week ends that the Messiah would be cut off. It is just your ASSUMPTION that He was cut off immediately after the 69th week ends. Jesus was...

No, not at all. I rarely read the newspaper anymore, but that's another story. Why did you ask that question? Of course. You are very hard to follow. Are you saying you don't think Isaiah 25:8-9 is about the church and is instead about Israel even though Paul applies it to the church in 1...

I do use the KJV, but also the NKJV and NIV and occasionally other translations. In any given situation I use the one that I think gives the true meaning of the verses the most clearly. Unless I'm talking to someone who I know has a clear translation preference. I normally will quote their...

I have not been clearly answered by you at all and certainly not in full. You know that someone just believes whatever they want to believe instead of what scripture teaches when they can't even answer simple questions. You can't even tell me what you think the disciples were asking Jesus when...

Total nonsense. Jesus is going to return and renew heaven and earth by fire, resulting in the new heavens and new earth, just as Peter indicated in 2 Peter 3:10-13. There is nothing whatsoever to indicate that Peter was speaking figuratively in 2nd Peter 3, so I find your argument to be...

Thanks. It shows a direct connection between the timing of the verses where it is referenced (1 Corinthians 15:54 and Revelation 21:4), which is not something that is discussed much at all, so that's why I created this thread. I agree. It's a wonder to me why you are not an Amil when you agree...

Okay, so you acknowledge that John 2:19-22 and Matthew 24:1-2 are records of two separate occasions/events. That's progress. Now, can you answer my question about what you think "these great buildings" represent that Jesus said would be destroyed with no stone left upon another? Mark 13:1 Then...

On the earth if it happens in my lifetime. Otherwise, my body will be in a grave and my soul and spirit will be in heaven. No, I will be caught up to meet the Lord in the air just before that happens and so will you. He is preparing the place there and will bring it to us. Otherwise, there is...

I missed nothing. Are you trying to play games? I guess I can say that you missed this part. Psalm 2:9 9 Thou shalt break them with a rod of iron; thou shalt dash them in pieces like a potter's vessel. And you missed this.. 2 Peter 3:10 But the day of the Lord will come as a thief in the...

You seem to ignore the "not only in this age" part and only look at the "age to come" part. He has all things under His feet now in this temporal age and He will also during the eternal age to come after He delivers His kingdom to God the Father (1 Cor 15:22-28). According to Jesus, the age to...

Nonsense. There is no indication whatsoever that Peter is being symbolic in 2 Peter 3:10-12. Absolutely none. I disagree with your Premil belief and will never agree with it. Can you accept that or do you want to just keep this going indefinitely? I have no desire to do that.

Yes, I can. When He comes again that is when the end will come and He will deliver His kingdom to the Father at that time, not 1,000 years later. You are the one not accepting what the text clearly indicates. Hello? Paul said that. I'm just repeating what Paul said. Ephesians 1:19 and what is...

I don't believe that the planet will be annihilated. I believe the entire surface will be burned up and renewed, resulting in the new earth. As for Genesis 9:8-17, what are you talking about? God's covenant was to never destroy the earth with a flood again, not that He would never destroy the...

Is there something about me telling you that it's pointless to continue this discussion that you don't understand? I'm not going to agree with you about any of this. Ever. Just accept it. I've been studying these things for a long time and I'm not going to change my mind about it. I was a Premil...

You're not getting the memo, buddy. I'm trying to politely agree to disagree with you and you're trying to keep the discussion going. I'm not interested. Your arguments are not even a tiny bit convincing to me. Just accept that. The souls of the dead in Christ have been reigning with Christ...

I don't find your arguments to be convincing whatsoever. I have no interest in continuing this discussion because I know it will go nowhere.

Nope. You're reading things into the text that aren't there. That is unacceptable. But, it's pointless to continue this discussion at this point. We'll have to agree to disagree.

As rwb has been telling you, you have been influenced by some of the dispensationalist teaching about the 70 weeks. Daniel 9:24 says that 70 weeks were determined to accomplish six things. That means a 70 week (490 year) time period was determined when that prophecy would be fulfilled. Which...