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I think if you actually did the math, you'd see a different picture. That was then. This is now. Tolerance to a fault is the order of the day. But it is part of it. They actually kinda do help. Righteousness is right-doing. Living out righteousness through Christ in the Spirit. It sounds...

When? Where?

If ye love me, keep my commandments. And I will pray the Father, and he shall give you another Comforter, that he may abide with you for ever; (John 14:15-16)

Have you trouble-checked today yet? No? Well, then, let's trouble-check--Golleee!

I can't for the life of me understand why the mention of obedience always turns into a discussion about justification by works of the law. It's the never-ending sermon to the choir.

Ain't we apickin' our peaches afore they're fuzzed up good?

I guess we better get the can-opener and let 'em out so's the ones in the back can start breathin' again.

I was just ribbin' ya. :D

Did you read the OPs, JBF?

Perhaps you can furnish us with original manuscripts of Ignatius's Epistle to the Smyrneans.

Did you read the OPs?

I think we might not have the same understanding of how deeply rooted the sin problem is. :)

Mocking me for tithing. Nice.

I guess we're going to have a lot of spiritually dead saints in Heaven who hate God.

And the temple of God was opened in heaven, and there was seen in his temple the ark of his testament: and there were lightnings, and voices, and thunderings, and an earthquake, and great hail. (Revelation 11:19) Hebrews 7 23And they truly were many priests, because they were not suffered to...

For me, it was the Pennsylvania Conference of Seventh-day Adventists. :)

Thank you for participating. :)

We should make a thread for this!!! :)

I guess up until the mid 20th century, nearly all Christians were just unenlightened. :)

The most systematic theology I could ever have imagined. My father-in-law handed me a Bible study guide on the state of the dead, and before I knew it, I was hooked. I soaked up the truth like a sponge. That's my story and I'm stickin' to it. :)