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Also, what one holds as a definition of "belief in Christ" can be a source of division.

Everything has to be interpreted. Do you really think they speak English in Glory?

As pertaining to eternal security?

What meaneth this? How readest thou?

I've considered this as well, but I've come to believe that the matter is not a zero-sum equation, i.e., there are more than two polar-opposite positions in play. Is resoluteness not an option? Cannot some people be conscientiously firm in their beliefs, even if they're wrong? What are we to do...

Who are "the others" and "they?" You're always saying "hope this helps!!!" Does it help to deal in imaginative hypotheticals and us-and-them or all-or-nothing thinking? Does it help to depict all opposers of eternal security as having the same exact detailed positions and opinions? I don't think...

Amen. He and His Father are One. One God.

We've descended into a largely semantical maelstrom.

Editing is handy, isn't it?

You asked; I answered.

So becoming a man changed nothing?

Creeds don't interest me in the slightest. I'll take a "Thus saith the LORD" over a creed any day.

Ad Hominem according to the definition you posted earlier.

What was it you were saying earlier about "the masses?"

He emptied Himself, yet in Him dwelt all the fullness of the Godhead bodily. He was 100% human, yet 100% divine. I don't understand it but I believe it.

I don't understand why people can't or refuse to recognize and/or accept paradoxes.

I get the feeling that the terms "kenosis" are "kenoticism" are being conflated quite a lot in this thread.

I agree with the OP, as far as I can tell, but pointing out flaws in someone who has just pointed out one of your flaws is a childish way to defend yourself. Surely you can see that. You might as well say "I know you're a sinner but what am I?" Your condescension is still offensive. At one...

Your condescending manner is insulting.

The Bible is a very large volume. Your style of discussion seems to overlook that fact. If you want to express truncated, matter-of-fact opinions, expect to be challenged. Welcome to ChristianityBoard.