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Father, You know all things and you know what is about to take place on the earth...I pray for your guiding hand in the days ahead, that you will keep your children and also those you have chosen by name [though they may not know you yet] under the shadow of your wings, that you will lead them...

no...because it doesn't save me. Christ did that on the cross...that matters very much

It really doesn't matter where they went. Soul sleep advocates are going to believe their doctrinal err even if the evidence were blatantly staring at them in the face ;)

BA, this happened to me when I was helping another member...try going to a free image hosting service and downloaded it there. Then copy the direct links/layout code [not the URL because it doesn't work] from that site and paste it into our "URL import" window in the photo editor...

Found my avatar but it would not upload in the photo editor on my profile page so I went to a free image hosting service and downloaded it there. Then I copied the direct links/layout code [not the URL because it doesn't work] from that site and pasted it into our "URL import" window in the...

Okay...If you go to your profile page by clicking your name on the top left of the main menu a drop down window will appear. Click "My Profile" then click the silhouette of the man on your profile page and follow the directions. I removed my profile pic to trace back the steps...and now I...

whose Tom??? :unsure: Oh I must be getting tired. Sorry Tom :D

The Jews understood the meaning and intent of this book and that is why the idea of Sheol was not debated. The emphasis was on man's view of life without God. The writer did not say that there was no life there but rather, no work. knowledge, planning or wisdom there. Ask anyone in a wheelchair...

Well that's a really difficult question to answer Juggar! If I were from a Muslim family, my role would be consistent with my beliefs. My grandparents and also my parents, had a set role to play during their early married years. This may be a something derived from past British links but in our...

Hi Mel! Glad to have you join us!

Well actually most Judaic believers do believe in the resurrection otherwise they would not believe that some had gone down to sheol/hades/Gehenna and that sheol/Gehenna has a time limit on it for some because it's a place of punishment. They also believe in the coming Messiah. They do not...

aspen you are sooo funny!!!

Oh...and those "Judaic Jewish believers ergo; False prophets" as you called them...Also wrote about their understanding of Gehenna... http://judaism.about.com/od/judaismbasics/a/Gehenna-Jewish-Views-of-the-Afterlife.htm

So the Jews aren't keepers of their own culture, history or beliefs prior to the cross?

Jewish Encyclopedia ~ Sheol (Even the Jews believed in Sheol being a place where the dead congregated) It connotes the place where those that had died were believed to be congregated. Jacob, refusing to be comforted at the supposed death of Joseph, exclaims: "I shall go down to my son a...

Uncle Wiki says that... The Hebrew meaning of the word "Sheol" is known as a place of the dead where the righteous and unrighteous go. A place of darkness, cut off from life and from God. When the Hebrew scriptures were translated into Greek, the word "Hades" was substituted for "sheol"...

Thanks for the link Doug, I have always been interested in coding since meeting BiggAndyy and HS. This is just super cool! "HS I am learning how to CODE!" Woohoo!

Okay you have still not got this yet and I'm being really patient here. If you want to deal with an issue raised then take it to the debate forum and leave this one to continue on it's original trajectory. <_<

That's fine...start another topic in the debate forum so that you can deal with those issues raised. The topic is off track when it does not refer to the O/P... It's a simple enough question and I would be very interested in comments from our members.

It amazes me how quickly this topic has gone off track. If you'd like to discuss another topic please feel free to do so...however, the O/P was ~