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consumed with the unspoken promise of satisfaction.......and I'm sure you're familiar with the line the Rolling Stones belted out...'can't get no satisfaction....'

And of course, my diagnoses is correct also. See, I'm not just a quiet thinker.....I'm a quick thinker as well :eek:...... Ohhhh, you haven't seen my diagnoses? :rolleyes:....it's there.....been in these pages for some time.......but who can hear it.....yes, who can hear it?o_O

could it be because of poor hearing?

What! you got permission from the itty bitty chat committee?

what words shall I say? We are loved beyond what we can imagine?.......how far/much can we imagine?.....what/who sets the gauge? God has become a man and walked among us, breathed our air, sweated in labour. Will we now treat this as another abstract idea or will we let the profundity of this...

hey hey! :)

What Are we Getting Saved From? I'll say it again.....our own futility!

Can we take seriously, 'love holds no record of wrongs'....can we process it so our theology reflects it......or is it too much and we need to crucify it....or at least water it down so we can enjoy revenge of some sorts?

Sucking up to God is none other than trapped subjectivism. That's how all humanity operates by default. It's fruit however is one of hypocrisy which is what Jesus rebuked as 'of your father the devil' The whole sucking phenomena is the result of the mindset of 'doing' to get God's favour. Its...

Forgiveness can only be for Past Sinning. Love holds no record of wrongs! Why plaster ones own dysfunctional desire (tit for tat) onto God? Why turn God into a petty demagogue? Why insist on making God into our image when Jesus has revealed the heart of God?

How were you saved/born again? All men are drawn because Jesus has been lifted up......he has shown us the Father's face. Resistance to that drawing, whether overtly (in your face) or under the the guise of religious suck-up practices (disposition) has its own trajectory.

Jesus bore testimony of the Father so that we need no longer suck up to God but rather relate to him as a friend. Any rebukes Jesus or Paul dished out was because the 'religious' were intent; they insisted on sucking up to God. In my view, the whole sucking disposition results in...

Jesus attacked....but his weapons of warfare are/were not as mans. Jesus attacked oppression with grace......a principle the mind of the world does not understand....even considers foolish. Life never begats death...it does the opposite

God does not destroy.....he doesn't need to. Evil has within it the seeds of its own destruction. God is in the business of saving from death not perpetrating it. Consider Jesus's purpose. His objective is to liberate from oppression .....even the oppression of death.......and Jesus is the very...

if its a trap....get rid of it

It is Paul who pulls this baby apart...ie, explains it. He uses the expressions 'in Adam' and 'in Christ' Romans 5...check it

I understand these things are attributed to God......yet if we view God without the lens of Jesus (who is God defined) we will come up with the picture of God Satan wants us to have, ie a schizophrenic God who is unpredictable. Did Jesus ever fry the opposition?

in our experience here and now we are all subject to it ie, the law of sin and death.....so you will need to explain how you see your statement/quote

God destroys evil with kindness. Not the mamby pamby kindness which is a masquerade. Jesus said God send his rain on the just and the unjust. It is the Serpent who has the power of death according to Jesus in John 10:10. God is not a destroyer.....he is a life giver........or have we missed the...

God has never changed the NT tells us.....this is the truth Jesus came to bear witness to ......this is his defining statement to Pilate.