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  1. Wrangler

    Why I Would Not Like Jesus

    I said OVERLY spiritualized, neglecting soulful needs, needs of the body. This is seen in Christianity being the only religion that has a man shortage; men don't feel needed, i.e., they are wasting their time, not doing anything, told to be passive, "fight on your knees," etc. My wife can sing...
  2. Wrangler

    A darkness that can be felt

    This thread is for those who've experienced a darkness that can be felt. This is the end of the sentence in Exodus, Chapter 10, verse 21 in the NRSV: "A darkness that can be felt." Today's devotional reading struck me in comparison to a verse I reference a lot these days. Isaiah 5:20 "Woe to...
  3. Wrangler

    Is it okay to blame God for stuff that is his fault?

    Displace faith with knowledge and the resultant inequality of knowledge between prophets and others. God communicates directly with prophets. Others have to have faith in the claims of the prophet. No one doubts the sun in the sky for it is seen daily. Why not such undeniable evidence for God...
  4. Wrangler

    Is it okay to blame God for stuff that is his fault?

    The thing is the next step. The follow up thought. OK, God is at fault for everything, you say? Now what? As Peter said to Jesus when he asked if he too would leave him in John 6:66, where else can we go? I don’t think God would be angry if you said this. He can take what he is responsible...
  5. Wrangler

    Why I Would Not Like Jesus

    That reminds me years ago (decades before 9/11) my boss and I went to Canada from Detroit to catch a flight to Montreal. It was a small plane and just before boarding they had us put our carry on through metal detectors. I sarcastically said, "Yea, like I have a bomb on a plane I'm going on."...
  6. Wrangler

    Why I Would Not Like Jesus

    All killing of sacred cows do feel like being on thin ice. And I think being afraid is understandable. The truth often scares people - as it should. It seems to me that Christiandom has become overly spiritualized. As innocent as doves, yes. But not as wise as serpents - who infamously speak...
  7. Wrangler

    Why I Would Not Like Jesus

    What's the difference? I don't lie. I just have my attorney, my agent do it on my behalf and at my command. What kind of sophistry is that? Another sacred cow, for sure. As if Isaiah 45:7 I form the light and create darkness. I make peace and create evil. I am Yahweh who does all these things...
  8. Wrangler

    Why I Would Not Like Jesus

    That's pretty funny right there! Code talkers don't get convicted of perjury. :gd <sigh> Analogies and metaphors don't work when you know your audience is taking it literally AND you keep double down on the deception. I use analogies and metaphors all the time in referencing pop culture, like...
  9. Wrangler

    Why I Would Not Like Jesus

    Odd for you to ask this question after asking who said I have to like it. Also, my preference is not my attitude. I am allowed to like certain things and not like other things. There is no requirement change component.
  10. Wrangler

    Why I Would Not Like Jesus

    Are you saying the ends justify the means?
  11. Wrangler

    Why I Would Not Like Jesus

    There you go again, falling back to deconstruction. The WHY of the matter is not the issue. The WHAT of the matter is. Deception. Words have meaning and ideas have consequences. Using words his audience takes to refer to Solomon’s temple - and knowing his audience takes it that way - is not the...
  12. Wrangler

    Why I Would Not Like Jesus

    Did I ask questions in the OP? I'm just stating my preference. Why is that scary ground?
  13. Wrangler

    Why I Would Not Like Jesus

    LOL. Why are you using quotes? To pretend the lie is not a lie. Your lie (to yourself) is to deny Jesus most certainly did speak about bread. He also repeatedly spoke about sleep, an action by the living. I know there is a deep seated need to dismiss these lies as metaphors. We can reject that...
  14. Wrangler

    Why I Would Not Like Jesus

    Ever read 1 Kings 22:20-23? Circular Reasoning, aka, the sacred cow.
  15. Wrangler

    Why I Would Not Like Jesus

    I've addressed elsewhere in this thread the distinction between someone who lied from being a liar. What do you call someone who says something other than "the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth? Talking about inapplicable bread, sleeping, temples is straight up deceptive...
  16. Wrangler

    Why I Would Not Like Jesus

    Not this thread. :rolleyes:
  17. Wrangler

    Why I Would Not Like Jesus

    No one. Thanks for making that point. I'm just saying publicly that I don't like certain things about how Jesus communicated at times.
  18. Wrangler

    Why I Would Not Like Jesus

    As I see it, the sacred cow is glossed over in predictable ways. Like changing the subject. It is not "vague" it is lying, using words to mean something the words don't mean, leading to frustration of the audience as well as the speaker. The very definition of poor and deceptive communication...
  19. Wrangler

    Why I Would Not Like Jesus

    Agreed. "Teaching" so that not all people will understand it is foolish nonsense.
  20. Wrangler

    Strength and Honor: Triumphing over Feminism

    Vid showcasing feminists refusal to take responsibility for their choices.