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Ancient Chiliasts, like modern Amils and Postmillennialists, saw the redeemed Church as true Israel. There was nothing in the early Chiliasts writings that taught God had two peoples, elevated Israel or saw the restoration in any way of the old covenant apparatus. Both ancient Amils and ancient...

Do you believe Satan and his minions are physical beings? Is the dragon in Revelation 20:2 a literal physical dragon? Is the serpent in Revelation 20:2 a literal physical serpent? Is the key mentioned in Revelation 20:1 a literal metal door key? Is the chain mentioned in Revelation 20:1 a...

No. You twist the Bible to say what you believe. The 6000 years theory the ECFs believed in was due to end in 500AD. Do you believe that? Premils keep moving the goal-posts to support their error. Your dating has been refuted by many. It is wrong and unobjective.

You do not seem to have a clue what redemption truly means and entails. How can you be redeemed if you were never a sinner? That is nonsensical. Are you talking about? Billions in the millennium are deceived by Satan. You are living in a fantasy world. 1. So, according to you, turning your...

Ok, so you are now unto Phase 2 of the Premil engagement: ad hominem and slander against fellow believers that dare to disagree with Premil. Wow! Next phase is to run (that is Phase 3). Phase 1 was avoidance.

It is clear you have no answers to Amil. Avoidance is the Number 1 Premil trait. You have no answers because your theology runs against the Bible. Read what I wrote instead of ducking around the sacred text. Read what I quoted from the Bible pertaining to the wicked and show me how any wicked...

LOL. I did not think for one second that you had any evidence to support this private opinion. So, i am not surprised you failed to answer these claims you made. The burden of proof is with you to support what you claim. It is playing that you cannot. Why not admit you have nothing?

Ok, help me: (1) where is a rod of iron mentioned in Rev 20 and (2) where does it say anywhere in the Bible it would last for 1000 years? Ok, show me this in Rev 20. This is not an issue worth arguing over. It does not prove or disprove either position

So, you do not believe this earth will be regenerated, renovated or renewed by fire at the end?

So, you do not believe this earth will be regenerated, renovated or renewed by fire at the end?

Stop avoiding the elephant in the room! But sin, rebellion and the wicked increase to such an alarming degree that billions of wicked turn on Christ, follow Satan, and surround the camp of the saints. This is the dirty little secret that Premils wish was not in the Bible. They live in denial in...

But they are all part of the one redeemed Church, right?

So, if I am hearing you right, these billions of Christ-rejecters that followers Satan after the millennium (Gog and Magog) "are redeemed" and possess "permanent incorruptible bodies"? So, you have 4 peoples of God in your millennium ("the lost sheep of Israel," "the Gentiles, the 144,000 and...

So, are the OT saints part of the Church today in paradise?

Can you answer yes or no to my questions, instead of your constant evasive responses? So, the answer is no, those who populate your future millennium are not the Church?

I know what Amils believe. I do not need you to speak on our behalf. They believe there is only one people of God from the beginning. Hello! I am asking what you believe. It is easier to get blood from a stone. Maybe you do not know what you believe. It sounds like it. So, the sheep ("the...

Not true. He admitted: "The 7000 years that God has decreed for mankind, is not specifically stated in the Bible. It is in the Epistle of Barnabas and by some of the early Church fathers." Of course this was not true either. You were not able to support this claim re Barnabas. The fact is: it...

That is not what I asked. Here we go again: more and more and more avoidance. This is very tiring. When you talk about the Church being in paradise, do you include the OT saints in that description?

That is not what I asked. Your avoidance and uncomfortableness at explaining your own views is not advancing your cause. It is showing us: you have something to hide. Please answer these simple questions: So, are Gog and Magog redeemed believers? Where does it say the redeemed in incorruptible...

That is not what I asked. Are those on earth in your millennium that are in Christ and are part of the body of Christ in the Church?