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  1. GodsGrace

    What affect is there on The Fall and The Atonement, if Adam was not the first human?

    Sorry Windmill, I've lost track of our discussion. I'd say that influence of the time of writing is found all throughout the entire bible. I do agree with this.
  2. GodsGrace

    Do you have to repent if you are "led by the spirit"

    Thanks Marks. But it doesn't help me! God is spirit, God is a spirit. Wait. One is His nature...ontological. One identifies Him. (still seems the same. I could be real thick at times!).
  3. GodsGrace

    The Way/Theosis/entire sanctification.

    Well H, I guess we can't agree. We're NEVER free from the "flesh". Because we're never free from what causes us to sin.... our sin nature. When we become born again our sin nature remains but is subdued, put under submission, buried somewhat. But it never totally disappears otherwise, indeed...
  4. GodsGrace

    The Way/Theosis/entire sanctification.

    I posted something from the Orthodox religion. You're speaking of orthodoxy. Orthodoxy does not believe man can become divine...ever. This would mean that man becomes like God. I'm using the word divine in this sense: divine 1 of 3 adjective di·vine də-ˈvīn diviner; divinest Synonyms of...
  5. GodsGrace

    Why was "the Tree" placed in the center of the garden (orchard)

    All Jesus taught was love. Love is the overall theme of the NT. Jesus taught that hate is akin to murder. Hating persons is definitely what Jesus was alluding to regarding murder. But should hate be a part of our emotions at all? The OT specifically teaches that we are to hate evil. The other...
  6. GodsGrace

    Why was "the Tree" placed in the center of the garden (orchard)

    Yes, indeed. You should join the CC. They agree on everything. Poor Christendom....the others understand nothing, but YOU understand everything. God is spirit. HOW do you suppose God could ever be seen? Is this the same John speaking that declared that we have seen the word be made flesh? John...
  7. GodsGrace

    Why was "the Tree" placed in the center of the garden (orchard)

    Yes. An awakening after 1,800 years after Jesus was resurrected and after Christianity had already been established and its definition. Hate to be rude Auntie Jane, but I really don't know why you want to speak to an ignoramus like myself. I have no intention of responding to you.
  8. GodsGrace

    Friendly Bible Study - participants must agree to Nicene Creed.

    Anything that encourages us is good. Personally, for me, I don't find these deaths to be encouraging. I find horrible how man could treat man. Italy's towns have patron saints. The patron saint of the small town where I was born was only 19 years old when he was roasted to death for preaching...
  9. GodsGrace

    Friendly Bible Study - participants must agree to Nicene Creed.

    Getting back to Acts 6: It states in the very first sentences that the Christians were growing at a great rate, going back to Acts 5. The reason for this, as far as I can tell, is that there were healings being done and a husband and wife were struck dead because they stole money and this was...
  10. GodsGrace

    Friendly Bible Study - participants must agree to Nicene Creed.

    No. Not familiar with Thomas Hawkes. Doesn't sound any different than many other horrors. Why do you think this is different? I'm going to have to insist that we don't know HOW we'll react to any situation unless and until we're faced with it. This is just general life experience. If you're...
  11. GodsGrace

    Do you have to repent if you are "led by the spirit"

    Gee. After quite a few years, we finally agree on something. Not too sure there's a difference between GOD IS SPIRIT and GOD IS A SPIRIT, Certainly God is spirit and certainly God is A spirit... But because God is spirit does not deny that there is also an unholy spirit operating in the world...
  12. GodsGrace

    The Way/Theosis/entire sanctification.

    My day is over too. I see we live in the same time zone. I'd be posting now but going to go pick up my brother and wife at the Florence airport! They live on the other side of the pond. 'night
  13. GodsGrace

    The Way/Theosis/entire sanctification.

    I hope this is not what she believes. I haven't been following this thread after my initial postings. This is a habit of mine - not because I don't find this interesting. IF we have to reach theosis, sinless perfection, call it what you will, in order to be saved.... I fear the narrow road will...
  14. GodsGrace

    The Way/Theosis/entire sanctification.

    Agreed. I Don't know how it could be understood otherwise.
  15. GodsGrace

    Justified by Works

    Agreed. The match is over. I didn't know this was a match.... but OK.
  16. GodsGrace

    The Way/Theosis/entire sanctification.

    @Hepzibah 2 of 2 They turned the world upside down because they saw a dead man come back to life. They were transformed because they finally understood who Jesus was. As to Romans 7...Isn't it speaking of a saved man that USED to be unsaved? This is my understanding. Paul is struggling with...
  17. GodsGrace

    The Way/Theosis/entire sanctification.

    After all these posts, I'd say it would be a good idea to define THEOSIS. I say this because I'm no longer certain of what it means for US. This is from an Orthodox (meaning denomination) site: Theosis The fundamental vocation and goal of each and every person is to share in the life of God. We...
  18. GodsGrace

    News regarding the border issues in the USA

    I just watched the debate on YouTube. It sickens me - what lies K told. What schemers. Offering a bill in June/July that they knew the Reps would not sign. For more border guards/police.... It's a laugh. After 3.5 years of letting everyone in they create this ploy to be able to say that the Reps...
  19. GodsGrace

    Why was "the Tree" placed in the center of the garden (orchard)

    YOU are not the messenger. Jesus isn't even the messenger. HE'S THE MESSAGE. And you want to keep discussing the Deity of Jesus when you know full well that this is not allowed? And you think I would keep discussing it to someone that has no ears to hear? :balloons:
  20. GodsGrace

    Justified by Works

    So you're saying that God IMPUTES to us HIS righteousness? This is exactly what those you fight say! Paul is saying that our righteousness of our own from THE LAW is not what he is teaching. Philippians 3 Paul is saying that our righteousness come from Grace now --- which I know you believe...