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Exactly. That verse popped into my mind as well....confirming the sons of God are angels, as well as Adam, and (according to the NT) those who believe on Christ and are given the power to become sons of God .....born again, new creations.

@Christ4Me I'm not following your assumptions and logic .....sorry. Lol

Angels are often called "men" in scripture. Genesis 19:5,8 [5]And they called unto Lot, and said unto him, Where are the men which came in to thee this night? bring them out unto us, that we may know them. [8]Behold now, I have two daughters which have not known man; let me, I pray you, bring...

The sons of God in the OT were angels, and Adam (and Eve, if you get real technical about it). They were created directly by God. After that, there are no humans called sons of God until the NT when He gave us power to become sons of God through belief in Jesus Christ.

And yet, I quoted JP ....not you. Don't assume that just because my post came after yours that I was talking to you. I was talking to the person I quoted......period.

You specifically stated that the sons of God were men who were led by God. That line.of logic would mean that God led men to take ungodly women....if you're saying the daughters of men were ungodly. This makes absolutely no sense.

I already saw them. I am relying strictly on what scripture says without taking away or adding my own understanding. I won't argue with unreasonable people.

Those are satan's seed??

I wasn't yelling, Cassandra. I asked a question. No "all caps" or anything to indicate yelling. And again....I wasn't even talking to you in that post.

Just like Adam and Eve before the fall.

I wasn't quoting you in that post. I was quoting JohnPaul.

I believe they are able to witness our journeys here. As far as them knowing what we would suffer.... perhaps the joy of knowing our end (being with them/with Christ forever in eternity) brings joy. But scripture indicates there are tears in Heaven. The time when God wipes away every tear has...

I believe the "great cloud of witnesses" are those believers who have gone before us. And in order to be witnesses, they have to both see and know. :)

That doesn't disprove anything. Again, if Seth was led of God, how did his seed populate the earth with nephilim giants?? It makes no sense whatsoever. That would also indicate that all men ("sons of God") were godly and all women ("daughters of men") were evil. And where were the sons of men...

Are you all-knowing?? Have you been and seen the entire world throughout the ages to say of a certainty there are no more nephilim? Jesus said that in the last days, it would be "as the days of Noah were." From what I've seen, we are in the last days. I've seen them with my own eyes, as have...

God set many things in place, but that doesn't mean that both fallen men and fallen angels haven't perverted and veered from God's ways.

It's not an assumption at all. GOD said (Genesis 3:15) that satan would have seed. That requires reproduction. It doesn't happen any other way. Seed in the Bible refers to a product of one's body that becomes offspring.

So Seth was led of God to marry ungodly women and create giants/nephilim which led to God sending the flood, huh?

No one is claiming satan creates DNA. Here is what I'm getting at... God Himself spoke to satan and said... Genesis 3:15 [15]And I will put enmity between thee and the woman, and between thy seed and her seed; it shall bruise thy head, and thou shalt bruise his heel. How can satan have a...

Where is the scripture that says they cannot reproduce? That is an assumption. And yet, NT scripture speaks exactly of what their sin was. They left their first estate, they fornicated and went after strange flesh.