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He's correct in stating that a believer could live a life of sin and still be saved? Here's what the other member stated: MANY CHRISTIANS WATCH PROGRAMS THAT THEY SHOULD NOT BE WATCHING. AND THAT IS NOT BEING OBEDIENT TO THE FAITH. THAT IS: I'M ENJOYING SOME CARNAL TIME. and GAME OF...

No Jun. You don't understand or maybe I don't and you could help me out here. You posted John 10:26-30 You said that this proved salvation cannot be lost. You said it proves OSAS. Could you please show me WHERE in John 10:26-30 or Matthew 1:21 or anywhere in the NT where it's stated that it...

1. I'm waiting for a reply from the other poster. I know you know what redeem means. 2. Everything always goes back to OSAS. Titus 2:14-15 14who gave Himself for us to redeem us from every lawless deed, and to purify for Himself a people for His own possession, zealous for good deeds...

I printed it out and reread it. Do you want to go over it sentence by sentence? I'm willing. He plainly stated that fellowship is lost NOT salvation. Where in the NT did Jesus teach about fellowship??? Didn't He teach about salvation, being born again, getting into heaven? The Prodigal Son...

Agreed. But the Bishops in these 5 areas were called popes a term of respect and endearment. Papa.....which means papa,,,,not dad. It was decided at some point, that there should be only one Pope to avoid conflicts and for the sake of authority. PS This is why it would be correct to call Peter...

You posted John 10:26-30. You claim it proves one can never forfeit their salvation. Where does it state this?

Jesus did not redeem our sins JunChosen. He redeemed US. Do you know what redeemed means?

Yes. Rewards. Jesus came to get us to heaven. Not to get us rewards.... !!

What nonsense bread. Check your history and stop telling people lies. Makes Catholics look foolish. I posted the letter.... Ain't that cute? You know NOTHING I don't know. Now read the New Advent Encyopedia again and notice that it speaks of popes at the time in question. Not THE Pope.

You're right DC. There's a member right here on this Forum (not on this thread) that believes exactly what you've stated and claims a person could LIVE IN SIN and still be saved. Nowhere does the NT teach this...but it sounds sooooo good. Ditto for asking forgiveness of sins. John spoke...

I have nothing to ask Amigo... but that's very nice of you. I get the feeling we might agree on most everything. Do YOU have any question you're interested in?

Could you please post the work of Irenaeus? This is from New Advent Catholic Encyclopedia: Most important evidence is furnished by the document entitled the "Liberian Catalogue" — so called from the Pope whose name ends the list. The collection of tracts of which this forms a part was edited...

EG Eternal Security is different than OSAS. Here's the difference: Eternal Security is biblical. It means that we can be secure in our eternal salvation for as long as we remain in Christ and follow HIs commandments and allow Him to be our Lord. Even the ECFs, which the OP of this is...

Well EG Those that were taught by the Apostles BY THE APOSTLES do not agree with you. The way of light, then, is as follows. If anyone desires to travel to the appointed place, he must be zealous in his works. . . . He who keeps them will be glorified in the kingdom of God. However, he who...

Actually GP, you're 100% right. OSAS is a gnostic belief that was not accepted by the early church - of course.... because Jesus taught the Apostles and the Apostles taught others, and those OTHERS did NOT believe in OSAS because it is not biblical - it is not taught in the NT. This teaching...

Italy doesn't do much teaching. It's pretty much an atheist country.

I have to say, RedFan, that the problem here is that there was NO primacy in Rome until it was decided that there should be only ONE POPE to lead the church and this didn't happen until the 4th century, if I remember (which I may not). PS Each Bishop ruled over his own territory. Here are the...

OK. Let's see if we agree on history - which we should. I'd say that the reason Rome became the seat of the Pope....the one and only Pope which did not happen until hundreds of years after Peter, was seated in Rome because Rome had become the capital of Christiandom. The 5 important regions of...

I like your analogy of the water. I use water to teach the Holy Trinity. I might use it for some doubters from now on! Thanks for the idea.