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  1. GodsGrace

    What is the purpose of infant baptism?

    The above is a wonderful post written by a wonderful Christian. HOWEVER, You still have not explained WHY infants were baptized BEFORE, in the early churhc, and they WHY they were baptized after the 5th century - after Augustine. And, I NEVER said that infants were not baptized in the early...
  2. GodsGrace

    Elect or Not Elect: Why ALL Should Be Alarmed

    The above is by Paul....who agrees with Jesus. Could you imagine if he didn't ! But I've posted MANY verses that state that we are to do good and they're by JESUS.... Our Lord, of Whom we are disciples. This means that we learn from Him and follow Him.
  3. GodsGrace

    Elect or Not Elect: Why ALL Should Be Alarmed

    I don't know ANY Christian that believes we are saved by works. We are saved by faith. However, look at verse 10.....we are created unto good works. So,,,,are works good or bad? Are good deeds works or are they necessary because we were created for them? Did Jesus teach that we are to engage...
  4. GodsGrace

    Elect or Not Elect: Why ALL Should Be Alarmed

    This is a weird concept Rita, I mean that anyone can read scripture and come to their very own conclusion as to what it states. Do you realize that this means there is NO TRUTH? If we can make up our own truths, then we have no truth available to us. The comment made to the other member...
  5. GodsGrace

    What is the purpose of infant baptism?

    Catholics follow Jesus. Unfortunately, they've made up some doctrine that is not biblical. But so have other denominations. They shouldn't be demonized for it.
  6. GodsGrace

    What is the purpose of infant baptism?

    Oh please Jude. You don't even know me. Spare yourself the typing. Confession as the CC teaches it today was not done so in the early church. Purgatory was not taught in the early church. This is the idea: IF the church decides to change its mind about something.... It was WRONG either...
  7. GodsGrace

    What is the purpose of infant baptism?

    Are you going to explain WHY infants were baptized in the early church and WHY they were baptized after Augustine? It would be nice since you know so much. Thanks.
  8. GodsGrace

    Elect or Not Elect: Why ALL Should Be Alarmed

    HOW is post 2 verses and NOT EVEN COMMENTING ON THEM.... twisting them to make them say what he wants them to say? Why are you so afraid of the word WORKS when that's all Jesus taught? What do you think Jesus came here to do? To die on a cross so you could be saved and then do NOTHING to...
  9. GodsGrace

    Elect or Not Elect: Why ALL Should Be Alarmed

    Then Ritajanice, You're of the calvinist persuasion and are following a man named John Calvin. The JWs were recently invented. The Mormons were recently invented. Calvinism was recently invented. Hope you like the company you're in.
  10. GodsGrace

    Elect or Not Elect: Why ALL Should Be Alarmed

    This is what you posted CS. Yes, it's stunning, odd and unorthodox. You should try reading the bible without bringing your own ideas to it. You wrote:
  11. GodsGrace

    Elect or Not Elect: Why ALL Should Be Alarmed

    We could perfectly understand that Jesus wants us to behave well. In the High Priestly Prayer that Jesus prayed to the Father in John 17, He states that He gave the words which God gave to Him (Jesus) to the Apostles and that they received them (the words). John 17:8 8for the words which You...
  12. GodsGrace

    Elect or Not Elect: Why ALL Should Be Alarmed

    @PinSeeker 3 of 3 You don't even post your source. But it's John Calvin's Institutes of the Christian Religion. I have gone through all 4 books, but I certainly would not use CALVIN for support. Do you think a Catholic should use the CCC as support? Do you think one of the Confessions should...
  13. GodsGrace

    Elect or Not Elect: Why ALL Should Be Alarmed

    @PinSeeker 2 of 3 That's not what Jesus said. Jesus said we DO save ourselves and become a part of God's elect: John 3:16-18 16“For God so loved the world, that He gave His only begotten Son, that whoever believes in Him shall not perish, but have eternal life. 17“For God did not send the...
  14. GodsGrace

    Elect or Not Elect: Why ALL Should Be Alarmed

    Your explaining lack of free will. The Holy Spirit CAUSES you to want to persevere? Where is this stated in the NT? Jesus said the Holy Spirit is a helper and comforter... John 14:26 26“But the Helper, the Holy Spirit, whom the Father will send in My name, He will teach you all things, and...
  15. GodsGrace

    Perseverance of the Saints is different from Once Saved Always Saved

    Where are these crowns? Did Jesus come to earth to teach us how to get crowns or how to get saved? We must always obey. Agreed. And so we are to work out our salvation with fear and trembling because Paul himself was aware that even HE could forfeit his salvation: 1 Corinthians 9:27 but I...
  16. GodsGrace

    Perseverance of the Saints is different from Once Saved Always Saved

    Where? I have plenty to say to you.
  17. GodsGrace

    Perseverance of the Saints is different from Once Saved Always Saved

    Could you please tell me which of the following sentences or words I misunderstand? 2 Peter 2:20-21 . 20For if, after they have escaped the defilements of the world by the knowledge of the Lord and Savior Jesus Christ, they are again entangled in them and are overcome, the last state has become...
  18. GodsGrace

    Elect or Not Elect: Why ALL Should Be Alarmed

    You can make a book out of a paragraph. Unfortunately, none of it is scripture, but your very own opinions. What can be more man-centered than a religion/denomination that came into existence 1,500 YEARS after Jesus ascended? And which teachings DID NOT EXIST before then.... Augustine. Yes...
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    Elect or Not Elect: Why ALL Should Be Alarmed

    Here's my question to you: You state above that God has perfect compatible perfect justice. What is justice? You also state that God does some things for some people and not for others. So, in your opinion, what do the following verses mean? Acts 10:34-35 So Peter opened his mouth and said...