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You worship a pretty dumb God then, don't you? Lots of smiles and chuckles. No scripture. This is very telling. If you ever want to have a SERIOUS conversation, come back. Otherwise, you can keep your opinions to yourself.

No sir. I have nothing to get "CAUGHT" about. What I'm indignant about is YOUR ATTITUDE and BEHAVIOR. Which is anti-Christian, a disgrace to the Catholic Church, and an abhorrence to God in how you treat HIS CHILDREN. Read CCC 1271 and learn to treat your fellow brothers in Christ with some...

Brother Ronald,,,,, I can't remember if you're reformed so I'll use normal Christian language which you won't agree with if you are. Sorry about this. When you REPENTED it means that you turned around from walking toward satan and decided to CHANGE DIRECTION and walk toward God. This is what...

Perfect! So easy to understand...... As LONG AS we remain in Jesus, HE will REMAIN in us, and we will be saved. IF we leave Jesus, and the NT teaches that this is possible.... we will no longer be under the protection of our Lord. :Thumbsup:

Can't explain it any better EG. My post above no. 185 explains clearly how it's possible for a person to abandon God and return to their former unsaved lifestyle. My post no. 186 explains how God Father, the vinedresser WILL CUT OFF branches THAT ARE IN CHRIST if they do not produce fruit...

That's not what I stated. You'd have to go back and reread. I just don't have much time..... It was an explanation of the verse, which the reformed do NOT exegete properly.

What is the reward? And could you post a couple of verses that state that Jesus will do all the work for us? Let me put this simply: We are saved BY FAITH...... We remain saved BY WORKS. Father is the vinedresser. Every branch IN JESUS that does not bear fruit...the Father will take away ----...

Let's go through Peter together: Because, yes, it's about going back to our former life style, BEFORE we were saved......: 2 Peter 2:20-22 20For if, after they have escaped the defilements of the world by the knowledge of the Lord and Savior Jesus Christ, they are again entangled in them and...

You're going to have to post some scripture because that's all we have to go by. God loved THE WHOLE WORLD that He gave His only Son. John 3:16 God causes it to rain on the just and the unjust, He causes the sun to shine on the just and the unjust. Matthew 5:45 God wishes that no one should...

Agreed on this. But you state that you are being saved till the day you die. The problem, as I see it, is that you believe one cannot fall away from the faith.... after many verses I've posted stating the opposite. When we become saved we do not lose our free will. We still have free will to...

You mean God only FOREKNOWS whom He will pick to be saved? Can He not figure out that the rest will not be chosen? Does he have no common sense to figure this simple problem out? Anyway, Romans 9 to 11 is speaking about corporal salvation and not individual salvation. Every Christian...

OK But I'm sure you know that Perseverance of the Saints implies that it's GOD that actually forces those chosen to persevere. Because, in that theology, if God chose a person, then He will also irrisestably keep him saved until the end. The saints: Those chosen by God. Which becomes necessary...

Agreed 100%. Sorry EG. I just needed clarification.

Read your posts. I leave that for others on this thread to judge. As far as I'm concerned YOU'RE POISON FOR THE CC. And I stand by my statements. YES. You have absorbed his attitude, which is abhorent. And YES, I will not engage Catholics who do not know how to be either CIVIL or RESPECTFUL...

Indeed. God always calls according to purpose.... He calls persons according to the PURPOSE He has for them... He NEVER chooses who will or will not be saved. If this were true, the entire gospel would not only be unnecessary, but would make no sense at all. Romans 8.28 All things work for...

I SAID that God will NEVER LEAVE US.... but that we can leave Him. Actually both Jesus and Paul stated as such. Paul said even he can be disqualified from final salvation: 1 Corinthians 9:27 But I discipline my body and keep it under control, lest after preaching to others I myself should be...

Funny stuff from someone who thinks she knows everything. Go back and study the difference some more. It's something the CC knows about but that you apparently do not. The following video is for YOU and for @BreadOfLife Watch the first few minutes. Maybe you'll learn something important to...

Let's get this one thing straight Pinseeker.... GOD KNOWS EVERYTHING. GOD FOREKNOWS EVERYTHING. AND The reformed do not only mischaracterize context, as you are accusing @JBO of doing... they mischaracterize the very NATURE OF GOD.

Interesting. How would this massive test work? Must go. Later.

Then WHAT or HOW did God predestine??