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  1. Grailhunter

    Who are the sons of God and the daughters of men

    His word not you saying it is in the Bible. I disagree, most people do believe or are trying to believe. But it is people like you that cause confusion. You do not represent the Word of God. As before I have asked you to produce the Word of God saying that the sons of God were angels and you...
  2. Grailhunter

    Open Discussion of UR Chapter Five - When Was Hell Invented?

    Before we get to far along here for people that want to look into Gnostic history, Wikipedia has a pretty good write up. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gnosticism As you probably know the Gnostics did not call themselves Gnostics. A lot of the information and perspectives that comes forward is...
  3. Grailhunter

    Who are the sons of God and the daughters of men

    Faith really does not have nothing to do with people that spread false beliefs. Wikipedia will show you the different theories by different people over the years.....no agreement. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sons_of_God
  4. Grailhunter

    Who are the sons of God and the daughters of men

    You got nothing! Is this how you come up with your beliefs! Really there is no telling what you believe. I wish I could say that you are alone, but this is common....it is the reason....the reason....why there are so many denominations. The Bible says one thing and people believe something else...
  5. Grailhunter

    Open Discussion of UR Chapter Five - When Was Hell Invented?

    I am not sure if it is deep....it is extra. I went through all of the Jewish and Christian extra-biblical writings in college. What I find most useful about them is you can see what some people are thinking in a general sense in that time period. --->attain a surface level of understanding and...
  6. Grailhunter

    Who are the sons of God and the daughters of men

    LOL story telling is not biblical knowledge
  7. Grailhunter

    Open Discussion of UR Chapter Five - When Was Hell Invented?

    The concept of an "underworld" is mostly Pagan. And the concept of "Hell and Heaven are of light. Earth and the underworld are of darkness" is a close description of what Gnostics believe. Christian understanding of Hell as an eternal fiery place of punishment is real. The discussion of...
  8. Grailhunter

    Open Discussion of UR Chapter Five - When Was Hell Invented?

    If Hell is a myth, Christ and the Apostles are liars and the New Testament is fiction. But you are right in part....when was the word Hell introduced into language? The answer to that is simple.....around 725 AD. But the more pressing question is why? The answer to that is also...
  9. Grailhunter

    Who are the sons of God and the daughters of men

    Biblical study is not about personal options and preconceived notions. The Bible does not associate the phrase sons of God with angels. The Bible does not associate the phrase sons of God with bad people or bad angels. sons of God, son of God, Son of God is associated with good and significant...
  10. Grailhunter

    Who are the sons of God and the daughters of men

    God did not say that...see what I mean, you are putting words in God's mouth... Making it what you want is the wrong approach to biblical study....can you imagine where that would go. There is nothing to connect these beings to fallen angels or the event of fallen angels. Again, the phrase sons...
  11. Grailhunter

    Who are the sons of God and the daughters of men

    They were not giants.....One of three races of giants and we do not know why or how they survived the flood. The Bible indicates that the giants were there before this event and after. The Bible does not identify them as angels. If they were, it would be just as easy for the Bible to say...
  12. Grailhunter

    Who are the sons of God and the daughters of men

    Plenty of belief in the scriptures. But I do not try to put words in God's mouth. The Catholic Church did that and it did not turn out so good for them. There are times that the scriptures do not give us enough to come to a definitive conclusion. But that does not justify adding words and ideas...
  13. Grailhunter

    Who are the sons of God and the daughters of men

    You have done a good job Well you have done a good job of twisting scriptures and taking scriptures out of context and adding outlandish speculations. Quite the skill you have there, have you ever considered being a Jehovah's Witness, all these skills would come in handy.
  14. Grailhunter

    Who are the sons of God and the daughters of men

    But it actual describes instantly changing the water into wine .....not setting it up for fermentation. I have already stipulated that God was involved. But the scripture do not say caused her to conceive....it says Now the birth of Jesus the Messiah was as follows: when His mother Mary had...
  15. Grailhunter

    Who are the sons of God and the daughters of men

    I go for truth...ergo The Johnny Appleseed of Truth. Beliefs can be truths to a person....what I do is base my truths on facts....LOL....when available. Save your soul! The word is easier and if anybody thought back then that it was miraculous, it would have been easy to describe it that way...
  16. Grailhunter

    Who are the sons of God and the daughters of men

    Well show me the scripture with the word miraculous in it. LOL Beliefs, Truths, Facts. The reason that there are thousands of denominations is because people can believe anything they want. They can deny that Christ is God and the Son of God. They can believe Christ is a flying saucer pilot...
  17. Grailhunter

    What makes a doctrine false?

    I love that response! LOL
  18. Grailhunter

    What makes a doctrine false?

    Did Christ and the Apostles preach one religion? Was there one religion in the New Testament? If so why do people have such a hard time understanding it? If so why are there so many denominations?
  19. Grailhunter

    What makes a doctrine false?

    Beliefs, Truths, Facts it is important to know the difference.