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so this is your proof that I was wrong? lol.. whatever dude, again you just exposed yourself.

1. I am not a pretribber.. so you again just exposed yourself..

Dan 9? Your right, the church is not mentioned. but that does not prove pre-trib is in error.

the issue with this, is in kings. the spirit is speaking first person singular. so he is an induvidial spirit And he is the one who told the lying spirit. to the prophets.. The lying spirit itself is not representative of the beast out of the sea..

Not realy. Its not apples to apples. its apples to oranges. Many people who were gay, or transgender have come to Christ and realised their mistake. sadly many have went through these operations and now have to suffer that for the rest of their life because the idiot doctors instead of...

continue, there was more..

ok, I just read it. and stopped laughing. now time to get serious prove anything I said in those posts wrong.

No. It does not expose my theology it exposes your pride. I am trying to get you to think logically and to calm down. and as we see. you are still at it. and will not relent from your silly attacks on your brothers i,and sisters in christ. Oh this should be good.. You know what I hold...

I am just stating what I see You one argument was that Dan 9 does not mention the church. and that proves premill is wrong. This is a false application not only of daniel 9. but the argument itself. and does not address what the person who uses it (I will be honest. I have never heard a...

You tell me since you seem to want to discuss doctrines of a group of people. and not the word.. Do you know a premill who is not a dispensation? and does it even matter

the 70 weeks prophecy are the answers to Daniel's prayer. do you know what Daniel prayed? Do you know who and where he was praying for. do you know why he was praying?

11 Then I saw another beast coming up out of the earth, and he had two horns like a lamb and spoke like a dragon. 12 And he exercises all the authority of the first beast in his presence, and causes the earth and those who dwell in it to worship the first beast, whose deadly wound was healed...

Ah, I see, semantics. yes there was no vision per say. Gabriel just told Daniel what will happen before the things Gabriel said would occur will come to place.

Can't do this without looking at the prayer daniel was offering up to get context .. since gabriel was sent to answer daniels prayer

I believe 1 thess 4 will occur before Christs return and regn on earth. which makes me a pre-millenial if we are to try to put a label on what I believe. but lets not talk labels. lets talk about what the word says

My view is whatever happens will happen. We will not know until it happens. so there is no need to fight and cause division in the church over things we can not prove. My view is that pre-trib, mid trib and post trib all have things which they can use to support their view. so to pit one...

I said in an earlier post I was not sold on pre-trib.. Can you read?

lol.. I saw no evidence in the op that supported your view. I just saw someone who took what he thinks others say and try to destroy them. I only read the first post. I saw nothing that even made me want to consider going any further.

but your not. Actually no it is not. because I am not here to defend pre-trib. Your the one making the accusation. hence the burden of proof is on you. again, I am not here to defend pre-trib My teaching? lol. dude lighten up. your pride is so deep you can not even see this is not my teaching..

See this is the problem. You can say you disagree with the evidence. But you can not say there is no evidence. That is just plain false. and has absolutely no bearing of truth.. in fact.t here is more evidence Pre-trib MAY be true. than there is evidence you can submit to prove there is no...