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  1. Spiritual Israelite

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    LOL! "The alive remain"? LOL. That is not what Paul said at all. Why are you twisting what he said? He said that those who are alive and remain until the coming of the Lord will not precede those who are asleep (dead) in Christ. Which means those who are alive and remain until His coming will...
  2. Spiritual Israelite

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    According to Jesus, this age is when people get married and they die and the age to come is when people will no longer get married or die (Luke 20:34-36). So, why do you have people still getting married and dying after the last day of the age? As for two raptures...LOL! That is not taught in...
  3. Spiritual Israelite

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    Not only does he have more days occurring after the last day, he also has more trumpets sounding after the last trumpet. Makes me wonder how he defines the word "last". Not how it is defined in any dictionary, that's for sure.
  4. Spiritual Israelite

    The "watch rapture view"

    Only when that's all you do is ask questions instead of actually addressing my points. In your case, I believe that. Why else would you only ask a question in response to my post instead of actually addressing any of my points? No one is more confused than you. You just have a desire to be a...
  5. Spiritual Israelite

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    Stop your nonsense already. Many does not mean not all. Other translations have translate the Hebrews word as "multitudes". It's just a reference to the number of all of those who will be resurrected, which is many or multitudes. Jesus said ALL will be resurrected at the same time, not just...
  6. Spiritual Israelite

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    What is your point? Speak clearly. No, the church will be with Christ in the air at that point as they would have been caught up to Him just prior to that because 1 Thessalonians 4:14-5:3 is all one event. No, that will be the church because we are not in spiritual darkness. Paul was writing...
  7. Spiritual Israelite

    When did the 2nd temple literally initially cease being the holy place?

    But, you don't think that is supposed to be applied in a literal sense. Do you have any guesses as to what that would mean in a non-literal sense? There is no requirement that it would be something that everyone could see first before anyone started fleeing to the mountains. Once some saw it...
  8. Spiritual Israelite

    When did the 2nd temple literally initially cease being the holy place?

    The church will be caught up to meet the Lord in the air just before 1 Thesalonians 5:2-3 occurs, so there will be no believers left on the earth to flee to the mountains at that point. There is no relation between Matthew 24:15-21 and 1 Thessalonians 5:2-3. Also, fleeing to the mountains was...
  9. Spiritual Israelite

    Daniel's 1260 vs. 1290 vs. 1335 vs 2300 Days Prophecies (Abomination of Desolation Was the Crucifixion)

    He makes ridiculous comments like that often which is why no one takes him seriously. Obviously, no one wants to be deceived. A more ridiculous comment than that has never been made in the history of the world.
  10. Spiritual Israelite

    The "watch rapture view"

    You are not understanding that Matthew 13:36-43 involves what happens at the judgment and the separation of the wheat and tares should be compared to Matthew 25:31-46 where there is a separation of the sheep and goats for judgment. That is a different context from Revelation 14:14-20. That...
  11. Spiritual Israelite

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    Notice how @marks didn't address anything I said in this post and just picked out one thing from what I said here (first sentence of the last paragraph) and accused me of supposedly rewording the text with no explanation of why he was accusing me of that. How convenient for him to do that while...
  12. Spiritual Israelite

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    That's the least he can do. If he's going to make an accusation he should be willing to show exactly what he is accusing me of doing and why.
  13. Spiritual Israelite

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    Which verse? I think you may have misunderstood what I was saying because I was not referring to just one verse. I said "If you look at the text closely you should see that each person is judged according to whether they served Jesus or not.". Here the verses I was referring to in relation to...
  14. Spiritual Israelite

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    Have you never actually read John 10? The first fold is what Jesus called "this fold" when talking about Jewish believers and here you are trying to say "the first fold is the Gentiles"? You couldn't be more wrong if you tried. Also, the seed of the woman are said to be Jesus Himself (Rev 12:5)...
  15. Spiritual Israelite

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    How about you do that and then tell me how you interpret it instead of making accusations of rewording the text? I was not even talking about one verse, I was talking about Matthew 25:31-46 as a whole.
  16. Spiritual Israelite

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    LOL. How did I reword the text? I was giving an interpretation of the text as I see it. You should not talk to anyone if you don't want anyone to give their interpretations. This seems like an excuse for you to get out of having to explain why you interpret the chosen/elect differently than how...
  17. Spiritual Israelite

    The "watch rapture view"

    What in the world are you talking about? Who is is like the Son of man except for Jesus? Try actually addressing what I said instead of asking ridiculous questions.
  18. Spiritual Israelite

    The "watch rapture view"

    The guy trying to claim that the 7th seal comes before the 1st seal is asking me this question? LOL! Of course I'm being serious. Are you? I have a hard time believing that anyone can possibly be serious by claiming that the 7th seal comes before the 1st seal. Of course not. Hello? How many...
  19. Spiritual Israelite

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    Nope. He combined "this fold" (Jewish believers) with the "other sheep" (Gentile believers) into one fold with one shepherd (John 10:11-16) which represents the one body of Christ consisting of Jew and Gentile believers in the church.
  20. Spiritual Israelite

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    That is not a question that has anything to do with being Amil or Premil. Watching and being ready has to do with being spiritually in right standing with God and being in spiritual light instead of spiritual darkness. 1 Thessalonians 5:2 for you know very well that the day of the Lord will...