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  1. quietthinker

    The sacrifice of Jesus....revisited

    we apply his sacrifice by faith, yes, but how does God apply it?...the blood thing ie
  2. quietthinker

    The Sacrifice of Jesus.....revisited

    I think there is more to these stories and understanding of the terms used like 'justice' that apportion blame to God....like the flood or Sodom and Gomorrah or the genocide recorded that Israel practised under the instruction of what they believed to be God. I will not address this with you now...
  3. quietthinker

    SDA

    Would you consider that You Tube also hosts plenty of misinformation?
  4. quietthinker

    The sacrifice of Jesus....revisited

    Grace manifests in forgiveness. Forgiveness trumps payment every time! Herein is God's character revealed.
  5. quietthinker

    The Sacrifice of Jesus.....revisited

    'I am the resurrection and the life'...'if you see me you see the Father'.....Jesus. God causes no-one's demise...he is the life giver, not the life taker. There is however a life taker who masquerades as God, even the God of this world. When these factors are confused many other factors are...
  6. quietthinker

    The sacrifice of Jesus....revisited

    The Hebrews 9 nine text you quoted is then exempt for anything God is subject to....so in the 'sacrifice' of Jesus, God does not then require blood before we are cleansed (forgiven/reinstated)?
  7. quietthinker

    The Sacrifice of Jesus.....revisited

    In the story of the two debtors, both were forgiven promptly. How is it we marry the words 'debt' and 'penalty' and leave 'consequence' out of the picture. Did God say to Adam 'I will kill you if you eat of the tree'? or was death a consequence of eating?
  8. quietthinker

    The sacrifice of Jesus....revisited

    is God subject to ceremonial laws 1CL?....how does this work?
  9. quietthinker

    The sacrifice of Jesus....revisited

    To your No.3 answer and your following quote Nancy; how does the blood do this?
  10. quietthinker

    The sacrifice of Jesus....revisited

    where did you learn this devin?
  11. quietthinker

    The Sacrifice of Jesus.....revisited

    The sanctuary is interesting, that is certain yet when all is said and done it was shadows of the reality. Jesus is God's reality....it is Jesus who informs us isn't it? Jesus had no problem forgiving the paralytic let down through the roof with a word.....don't you find that amazing? What is...
  12. quietthinker

    unwell.

    you are not forgotten lilygrace!
  13. quietthinker

    The Sacrifice of Jesus.....revisited

    yet God forgives.
  14. quietthinker

    The Sacrifice of Jesus.....revisited

    what did we owe?
  15. quietthinker

    "Farts And Poop" Didn't Stink In The Garden of Eden!?

    pubic hair is not curly for nothing! :(
  16. quietthinker

    The Sacrifice of Jesus.....revisited

    Jesus came to show us and the Universal created order the truth of God's reality. The charges levelled against God as being selfish by Lucifer were sufficiently persuasive to get one third of the angels on his side. Anything God ever wanted he made, how could he not be selfish? The charges hung...
  17. quietthinker

    The Sacrifice of Jesus.....revisited

    Forgiveness is definitely not contingent upon payment of any sorts when we look at how Jesus handled the situation, lets say the paralytic let down through the roof; the woman caught in adultery and even his disciples post resurrection. He reinstates Peter, ......he bestows peace on them even...
  18. quietthinker

    The Rider on the Red Horse has gone out!

    You're such a cheerful fellow Ronald. Where did you get your crystal ball? You are quick to call Biden an idiot yet if he's fulfilling what you consider prophecy don't you think that could be a good thing? or do you hope Jesus will delay his return by you determining what politicians should or...
  19. quietthinker

    The Sacrifice of Jesus.....revisited

    I think your post here Lambano is pertinent.....perhaps it could be fleshed out?