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How would you know what the earliest church even believed? Considering the catholics. of their own admission. Burnt any doccurment that they classified as heresy so no one could read them Imprisoned anyone who they considered a heretic For severe heretics, they had them put to death?

No on your last comment. I do not believe he was saved, Because if he was, he would not act that way to another person.. Especially a brother.

This was not applied to the house of Israel, It goes to everyone today..

I would look at it this way Jesus forgave us of ALL our debt. And he paid to keep us out of hell (jail) because of all our debt, he never left nor forsook us. So if we claim to be loved by God. yet refuse to forgive our brother of all his debt, or cast him out because he owes us.. then are we...

they considered it a heated topic that never comes to anything good. so they would rather it not be discussed.. I agree, its sad that christians can get that nasty to other christian that they need to ban a topic.

amazing how a JW comes in and does not direct the OP. but starts accusing.

It sadens me all the people that refuse to acknowledge the peace that suprasses all understand, and the faith rest that God promises to those who come to him. Who he makes into a different creature, his children. yet wants us to continue to live in fear..

trinity is a banned subject. I would be worried about discussing it. if @Angelina find out

he was not born a woman. he was born a hermaphrodite. which is she was born with both parts. (this is what I heard) But everything about him is male. (he even grew a pair if you know what I mean) and his chromozones and hormanes are male. that gives him an unfair advantage, He was banned from...

will fight there with you sis

Amen and it is getting worse. A man just took your gold medal in boxing.

STOP FOLLOWING MEN! Your as bad as he is. You both follow men.. Start following God. This response to him is nothign but arrogant pride in your church..

um, no they were not. and neither are you But the 5 points come from an interpretation of scripture. be careful what you say

um, no he did not. The 5 points are not in scripture.. Now you may be able to come up with the 5 points by using scripture (like the trinity) but the 5 points are not in scripture. But they did not right in the context that supports those points This is rude my friend And Calvin got it wrong.

Yep Anyone, Including YOUR CHURCH. MY CHURCH. OR ANY OTHER CHURCH. so what is the theme paul is trying to get across. don;t follow men, Follow God

but the 5 points are not true the 1st is only partially true, and not in context of fatalism, the next 3 are not true at all the final ones puts the onus on the believer to persevere, not on God to keep those who are his, so this in essence is wrong also.

I am having a great day.. Maybe you need to start over? And I did. And you say you humbled yourself? No. It says we will do works. It does not say anything like you are proposing. The tax collector called out for Gods mercy. He did not make any promise back to God. I don't HAVE TO, I do...

You can say it until your blue in the face. I not only explained it in Great detail (John 3: 10- 21) which brings it into context. and explains it just as I had shown you. now you lie and Say I have never considered it. You see, You could say you disagree with what i said, and we would be ok...

Daniel said he is the feet of Iron and clay (Later identified as Rome) Dan 2 Daniel said it is the fourth beast (leter identified as rome) dan 7 Daniel said he is the prince who is to come, who confirmed a 1 week covenant with many. whose people destroyed the city and sanctuary (rome) Dan 2...

So you went from sinning 24/7 to being cured of all sin and never sinning again in a microsecond? Yes. Bear fruit. Bearing fruit is on thing Being totally free from sin is different, In fact, if we could be sinless. we would bear fruit 24/7 and even in the passage, we see it is not the...