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This is possible. But according to all those OSASers a person that fears God is most probably not born again. They know who is and who is not. I guess. Also, I'd say that one could stay with God out of fear,,,personally I think those that come to God in the manner that is taught in the NT do...

The devil's work is telling persons they are saved forever no matter what. Yes, the devil thanks you abundantly. Grace is given to us continually, not just one time. The more you need grace and use it, the more God will give it to you. I depend on GodsGrace to live my life, maybe you and some...

Dear Behold, Persons that believe as the bible teaches, that we MUST ABIDE in Christ in order to be saved at the end of our life, do not sit around worrying about losing their salvation. 1 Peter 1:19 We obtain the salvation of our souls at the end of our life. The outcome of our faith is...

It has become a very convenient excuse these days to just state that if one falls away, he was never born again to begin with. How does a person reply to that?? Paul was worried about not staying the course. 1 Corinthians 9:27 If PAUL was worried about becoming disqualified, I'd certainly be...

Again, I agree. Jesus' SHEEP hear His voice. If you're not a sheep, you don't hear His voice. Only the sheep are saved. If one strays, He goes looking for it. I'm sure you know why....they can be killed or die in an accident. The wanderer NEEDS to stay with the flock. He needs Jesus to be close.

It'll be interesting to have this discussion, but when she comes to visit in July. If I can remember, I'll keep you posted... :)

I agree of course. We can do all things through Jesus... John 15:5 IF we ABIDE in Christ we will bear much fruit. Jesus seems to believe that bearing good fruit is important, and this can only be done IF we ABIDE in Him. The entire NT is speaking to believers....we should assume that...

James says that faith without works is a dead faith. This means that those that don't do works have a dead faith. A dead faith means we are lost. We can't change the meaning of words and/or verses. There are two possible answers for this that theologians do agree on. But I won't get into it.

BTW I don't believe a person just loses their faith one day It's a conscious decision a person makes to abandon God, to stop abiding in Him.

I like it too. But we can't go by one verse. How about john 15:2 and John 15:6? How do you reconcile so many verses that say we must remain in Christ and not fall away?

I agree that it's not an everyday occurence. Don't you know anyone that has left the faith?

Sure AMEN. What if a person turns away from God and wants nothing further to fo with Him?

By believe I mean that a person is following Christ. With his mind and spirit.

If you believe, you're born again. If you don't believe, you're not. Simple.

The idea of OSAS is confusing indeed.

What is the proper way of meeting with believers??

I love sci fi. I think I might have seen this. Been busy but will report back. Thanks.

Don't you agree that this is what every council was about?

She likes the names but feels she made a mistake with the hearts under the names,,,in red. Last we messaged, she wanted to remove them. And I don't know how she picked the tattoo artist. I could almost guarantee a recommendation,,but not sure.

I agree. But this didn't happen till hundreds of years after the ascension. This is my problem with the CC. On the other hand Christianity was being challenged from the beliefs of the Apostles and those they taught so some rules and explanations had to be established ,,,, thus councils. At...