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Yes. Thanks for asking. You are showing your character when you refuse to acknowledge but do laps denying: A jury verdict does not dictate reality.

Yup. You are subordinating reality (metaphysics) to politics. I'm going to type this slow so you might understand it. A jury found OJ "not guilty." This does not mean that he is innocent.

He was found liable in a court based on the preponderance of the evidence.

You are being willfully ignorant of the point; the reaction of the pot being created. It is not God that has to be justified to us; we have to justify ourselves to God. You have too many things fundamentally backwards. So, I'll leave this thread.

It's Jeremiah's potter analogy, isn't it? Paul merely piggy backed on it.

Yes, the condition does prove we can go other way. If we could not go another way, it would be unconditional.

Yet, even with the redeeming work of Jesus' death on the cross, many will still not find pardon - even those who claim to be believers.

100%. Sin would not be possible if human agency was a strict extention of divine will.

I'm not sure that is true. However, Scripture contains more than the writings of Paul. Salvation is certainly framed as an offer by John 3:16 and the author of Hebrews.

There you go again, doing laps on ground already covered.

Here, your cognitive dissonance really shows. You are trying to force your theology against reality. A man choosing to commit a series of murder is motivated by divine origin? <Sigh>I cannot convince myself that circles are not round. To suggest it is a matter of will, a matter of stubborness...

What if circles were not round? Let's stay focused on the thread topic. Thanks!

You’re doing laps on this subject. Perhaps cognitive dissonance with your doctrines not holding g up to scrutiny? God creates the pot, yes, but does not create the reaction of the pot being created. Analogies are useful but limited. At some point, the analogy breaks down in comparison to...

You are confusing multiple things, layer upon layer. Mercy is withholding a negative consequence. Justice is getting what you deserve. Grace is undeserved favor (giving a positive that the receiver did not earn). Regarding refusing grace, you are again confusing two things that are related but...

In my view, Calvinism puts faith on its head; eternal life has nothing to do with what you believe OR ones believe is not a matter of free conscience.

LOL. I guess we disagree then. OJ was one of my childhood hero's. I was shocked in seeing the Bronco chase. With certainty, I did not want to conclude my hero did anything wrong, let alone committed a double murder. Do you understand that? I did not WANT to come to that conclusion. By...

There does seem to be a bit of reversing cause and effect. I've made similar posts this week several times in other threads. Profound. This is a well written analysis. Eisegesis is pervasive in Christendom, reading into verses a doctrine one already has. Sad.

There are people who are guilty that the system does not find so. You do not understand or accept that.

@Duck Muscles, let me give you a real life scenario. I was offered a job out of State. I was open to it. My wife was open to it as well. In fact, to sweeten the deal, they paid her to come out with me on the interview - staying over the weekend. She is a life long resident of a mid-Western...