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  1. BreadOfLife

    Virgin Mary Had Other Children After Jesus

    Yet you haven't been able to produce even ONE verse that says Mary had other children, have you?
  2. BreadOfLife

    Virgin Mary Had Other Children After Jesus

    First of all Origen wasn't the only one who wrote about an older Joseph being a widower and having had children from a previous marriage. T his is also attested to by the 2nd century document, the Protoevangelium of James. As for Tertullian - he never flatly denied the Perpetual Virginity of...
  3. BreadOfLife

    The myth of grace-only & easy-believism shattered forever

    First of all - Ananias told Paul that his sins would be washed away by being Baptized - AND by calling on the name of the Lord. He DIDN'T say that this was the BAPTISMAL formula. Finally, unlike YOU and a few others here - Matthew understood as the scholarly evidence I quoted that "in the name...
  4. BreadOfLife

    The myth of grace-only & easy-believism shattered forever

    And apparently, you didn't read it again. Sooooo, WHAT was the Son's name - before He came down and was incarnated on earth??
  5. BreadOfLife

    Virgin Mary Had Other Children After Jesus

    Nope. Mary didn't have any other kids, either. I challenge ALL of you to show me where the Bible makes this claim or ANY writing from the Early Church does. Happy hunting . . .
  6. BreadOfLife

    Virgin Mary Had Other Children After Jesus

    No - it's called, "Biblical Fact." There is simply ZERO evidence of Mary having other children in Scripture - OR in any other extrabilical writing.
  7. BreadOfLife

    The myth of grace-only & easy-believism shattered forever

    It's funny that no matter HOW much documented evidence I bring to the conversation - YOU guys fall FLAT on your faces and are unable to refute it. I presented scholarly evidence regarding the phrase "in the name of" in post #229. If that is "jibber jabber" to you - then MAYBE you should enroll...
  8. BreadOfLife

    Virgin Mary Had Other Children After Jesus

    How does this prove that Mary had other children??
  9. BreadOfLife

    Virgin Mary Had Other Children After Jesus

    First, I proved you wrong. NOW, I'l prove that you are LYING . . . Origen The Book [the Protoevangelium] of James [records] that the brethren of Jesus were sons of Joseph by a former wife, whom he married before Mary. Now those who say so wish to preserve the honor of Mary in virginity to the...
  10. BreadOfLife

    Virgin Mary Had Other Children After Jesus

    WRONG. YOUR Bible only mentions the "adelpoi" of Jesus. NOWHERE does it mention them being the children of the mother of Jesus. In post #42 - I PROVED that they are the children of Mary's relative - ALSO named "Mary", who was the wife of Clopas/Alphaeus. Try again . . .
  11. BreadOfLife

    Virgin Mary Had Other Children After Jesus

    I already answered this in post #42.
  12. BreadOfLife

    Virgin Mary Had Other Children After Jesus

    Then refute post #42 regarding those "named adelphoi" as being the children of the "other Mary" standing near the cross. CAN you do that - or are you simply accustomed to spewing ignorant venom instead of Biblical fact?
  13. BreadOfLife

    Virgin Mary Had Other Children After Jesus

    You haven't shown ONE SHRED of evidence about Jesus having brothers and sisters. On the OTHER hand - I have pretty much destroyed your arguments in posts #42 and #50 . . .
  14. BreadOfLife

    Virgin Mary Had Other Children After Jesus

    READ post #42 - then give me an educated rebuttal . . .
  15. BreadOfLife

    Virgin Mary Had Other Children After Jesus

    The Bible doesn't say He had brothers. The Bible says he had "Adelphoi". time for a Bible and Linguistics lesson . . . The Greek word, "Adelphos"(oi) is NOT like the English word "Brother". It is a FAR broader term. It can be used for brother of same parents, half-brother (same father)...
  16. BreadOfLife

    Virgin Mary Had Other Children After Jesus

    I wasn't making any claims about her death. I was stating matter-of-factly that the bible NEVER mentions her as having "other children". I also brought up the fact that not ONE SINGLE Early Church Father EVER claimed she had any other children - not ONE. Pay attention . . .
  17. BreadOfLife

    The myth of grace-only & easy-believism shattered forever

    Ummmm, why do you keep posting this nonsense from your heretical sect over at Church of Christ International as if it were an established fact?? I've already proven your position to be false.
  18. BreadOfLife

    The myth of grace-only & easy-believism shattered forever

    I should take lessons from a guy who edited the bible and deleted 7 Books from it?? Why would I want to wind up in the same mess as YOU? The Old Testament Canon that I have in MY Catholic Bible is the SAME one that Jesus and the NT writers learned from. This is evident by the almost 200...
  19. BreadOfLife

    The myth of grace-only & easy-believism shattered forever

    Jesus is GOD and was ALWAYS God (John 1:1). He didn't "become" God at some later point.
  20. BreadOfLife

    The myth of grace-only & easy-believism shattered forever

    This isn't about bank documents. This is about the ROLES of the Triune Godhead. I have already proven to you from linguistic scholarship that "in the name of" simply means "by the authority of". You LOSE because you refuse to do your homework and instead choose to use silly arguments like "bank...