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Moral perfection is based on knowing good from evil, right from wrong....this is an oxymoron. :unsure:

Please provide scripture re: God's creation of A & E with impure dirt... ^_^ Bless ya!

Well I do not think there are any here at any rate ^_^ JMHO

why? :huh:

your quote: no it wasn't...unless the very dirt God made man with was sinful, but it was not. :huh: It only became cursed after Adam sinned Genesis 3:17 Then to Adam He said, “Because you have heeded the voice of your wife, and have eaten from the tree of which I commanded you, saying, ‘You...

He's talking about his flesh...it has to die. Death came after sin because death was the outcome of sin when Adam disobeyed God's command. :huh: Shalom!

Hey there jeremiah! Just because you are able to define "missing the mark" as a definition of the meaning of sin...does not mean that God created Adam and Eve sinful? This verse speaks of Adam after his fall....not before. They probably would not have had a perishable body if it were not for...

I think the whole issue is more about Governmental control. Parental rights are beginning to diminish and that will definitely have a global impact as pressure begins to be placed on individual govt's to conform to the status quo...We still have that choice available in NZ but it's not a right -...

What does that mean aspen? :huh:

God did not create Adam and Eve with sin. They did not "miss the mark" until they got tempted and fell. The potential to sin was already in the garden since the serpent had already done so...you are in err :huh: John 8:44 44 You are of your father the devil, and the desires of your father you...

Hope your Dad is doing okay veanne! still praying...

Liked! ^_^ ...no. It is a fundamental truth :huh: Bless ya!

Hi Grump! I understand how a mission trip can really change your outlook on life in general, it had certainly changed mine! Welcome to our fellowship, please make yourself at home. PS: Your join reasons can only been seen by the Admin. Bless ya!

Hi country_lad! Glad to have you aboard...God's timing is perfect Amen! Bless ya!

God has never created anyone who was originally, a sinner. Adam and Eve were created in the image of God and they were sinless in the beginning. We have inherited that fallen nature from their disobedience. Shalom!

We have already lost our ability to help anyone once we speak in anger against them personally ~ J.C. Watchman

Hi Clark! Great to have you aboard! I hope you enjoy our fellowship here @CyB Bless ya!

He is no fool who gives what he cannot keep, to gain what he cannot lose. ~ Jim Elliot

He is no fool who gives what he cannot keep, to gain what he cannot lose. ~ Jim Elliot

Well done! ^_^ you've worked it out!