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But Abraham, Isaac and Jacob and his 12 sons and all their offering in all generations was never promised the new jerusalem. I am just going off what they were promised.

so again, You think you will be let in because of your own righteousness? Come on man,, We all hear what you say, are you going to deny it?

Yes I do. that is how he paid our sin debt so we could be set free from the penalty of sin. and restored to a life with him. But this is not what I see from you A righteous person does not boast of how righteous he is or tell everyone to be like him, or even look to his own righteousness. He...

So you think God will accept a persons righteousness as payment for their sin? You think God will go along with a person coming to him with his own righteousness? (By the way, where does the standard of how righteous that person located?) I mean, does not a person have to have a standard to...

so this means God is not going to do what he promised? Is everyone on earth going to be saved? Romans 9: 6 is making a case against a Jewish argument.,. Romans 11 is Paul completed the argument in answer has the word of god failed..

well we have to be careful. because for those 1500 years. the power of rome held anything that did not follow them as heresy, they would imprison, outcast even murder people they considered heretics.. Me personally. I do not look to history to test my faith.. or to find out what different men...

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Yep, this sounds just like you. Still blind.. You would reject jesus if he was here today, because he would tell you what he told them, and we are telling you Actually it is very difficult. our flesh and pride gets in the way, You are proof of how difficult it is to just sit still and rely on...

No they did not claim Gods promise. they rejected the one sent, Because like you and most religious people. You think your ok, youi did not need saved,, Your decieved in saying this, A pharisee was a NOSAS person. they thought that had to obey a set of rules. and follow religious...

so your sinless?

John 15 is about producing fruit. If we (believers) abide in him, we will produce fruit if we (believers) do not, he will prune us, lift us up (in the translation it says cut off. but that is a bad translation) which is what people who tend vines due to vines that are laying to the ground...

amazing how far people will go to continue in their belief system..

At a time in the future. a time that only God knows about. All of Israel on thei earth will look to the one they pierced. after they all have confessed their sin, the sin of their fathers, and received Jesus as their messiah.. rom 11: 26 And so all Israel will be saved, as it is written...

You can do whatever you want, It does not make you right I reject your interpretation of this passage, because it once again Makes God a god of hate not love,.Was it no you earlier who said John was speaking about Gnostics. Now he is speaking about jews? and PS. Read the letter, starting at...

wow. No pride here. And I see your follower just loves your sarcastic demeaning, attack on someone else. Once again, Put down your calvinist playbook. open the bible and study. Amen, She would agree with you as do I Actually its you looking through your foggy calvin lens. Are you sure she...

This is what I mean No promise is greater than another. If God gave your family something, and said he gave it to them forever. And even made a law. and said as long as you do this, I will bless you with that gift. But if you do not, then I will punish you. Even to the poiunt or removing you...

I thought we were done? God made specific promises in Genesis, which you agreed with. Now you want to add to that promise? Sorry I can not do this. We are part of the original covenant (in you shall ALL the nations of the world be blessed) I am of those nations that are blessed because of...

I agree, and that was my point And here is where we get off track. If you read Gen 12, 15 and 17, You will see who these people are. They are the physical offspring of Abraham, through Isaac and later jacob, Also known as the 12 tribes of isreal. and please note. this promise was not that they...

sad but true

I think it is literal. But I think I see what your saying Jesus is telling them not to work for food which perishes. food for the physical body, (they worked hard to cross the water and find him) but to work for food which will endure forever.. which he will give them - he will explain that...