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    22 major reasons to abandon the Premil doctrine

    So, you are admitting that your theological claims do not make sense if you place the GT at the end? Israel cannot be "led away captive into all nations" after your GT because the end will be there? Jerusalem cannot be trodden down of the Gentiles" because the end will be there? The "times of...
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    22 major reasons to abandon the Premil doctrine

    Stop your constant avoidance! You are ducking around the argument and question. This is your MO. Please stop and think instead of your usual cut-and-paste. What you state is not addressing what I am highlighting/asking. Are we now in “the times of the Gentiles”? If this is the case then the...
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    22 major reasons to abandon the Premil doctrine

    You need to sort out your HTML. Can you double check before posting your posts?
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    The beliefs of the early Chiliasts were the antithesis of modern Premil

    Every conversation is so one-sided. All they're doing is pushing the genuine Bible student in the direction of Amillennialism. They were exposing their own theology by the fact that they have no answer to what the Bible says.
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    22 major reasons to abandon the Premil doctrine

    Robo: Please stop avoiding these simple questions: (1) Surely we are now in “the times of the Gentiles”? If this is the case then the tribulation in view in our discussion must assuredly be an historic event, not a future hope. (2) Do you believe that Israel will be "led away captive into all...
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    22 major reasons to abandon the Premil doctrine

    LOL. Very good! The $64 million question is: will you ever get a direct response from robo response?
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    22 major reasons to abandon the Premil doctrine

    Exactly. Everyone here is tired of his evasive cut-and-paste robotic responses. It gets old after a while. He is a master at evasion. I don't know why he posts here if you does not want to engage.
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    The beliefs of the early Chiliasts were the antithesis of modern Premil

    Your opinion does not matter. Where did Jesus teach this literal physical earthly kingdom? Give us Scripture and verse.
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    The beliefs of the early Chiliasts were the antithesis of modern Premil

    I reject your Pretrib error. It is extra-biblical and enjoys no proof-texts in God's Book. Your obstacle every time is fitting each scriptural text in with what you have been taught. That will never happen. Pretrib is an invention of man. It contradicts the teaching of Scripture.
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    The beliefs of the early Chiliasts were the antithesis of modern Premil

    You have nothing to bring to the table apart from insults. Your posts are scant on Scripture and commentary. You just repeating what you have been taught. You do not like your beliefs being challenged. There are so many scriptures above and so much commentary that you have doctor on that is...
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    The beliefs of the early Chiliasts were the antithesis of modern Premil

    Our Savior is seen challenging the Jews of His day, in John 8:32, saying, “ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.” To which they responded, “We be Abraham's seed, and were never in bondage to any man: how sayest thou, Ye shall be made free?” (v 33). Jesus replied, “I know...
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    The beliefs of the early Chiliasts were the antithesis of modern Premil

    There were natural general promises made by God to Abraham's natural progeny under the old covenant. This covenant is eternally gone! These have been superseded by His spiritual promises to His elect to the nations under the new covenant. True Israel has always been the believing remnant of...
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    22 major reasons to abandon the Premil doctrine

    (1) Surely we are now in “the times of the Gentiles”? If this is the case then the tribulation in view in our discussion must assuredly be an historic event, not a future hope. (2) Do you believe that Israel will be "led away captive into all nations" after the second coming then? (3) Do you...
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    22 major reasons to abandon the Premil doctrine

    This is your strongest point - name-calling those who you have no answer for.
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    The beliefs of the early Chiliasts were the antithesis of modern Premil

    Yahdee dahdee dah. Premil strips Christ of His lofty position and argues He is not currently reigning as King. Premil presents a BIG devil and a small god, a powerful kingdom of darkness and a weak kingdom of God. Amil is the opposite. Christ didn't just defeat Satan 2,000 years ago, he...
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    The beliefs of the early Chiliasts were the antithesis of modern Premil

    If you do not quote and then exegete a passage, it is unfair to expect others to do the same. The problem is, Amils will quote hard Scripture (as I did above) so the reader can see it for themselves, and they will explain it (as I did above), but Premils totally ignore both. This is their...
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    The beliefs of the early Chiliasts were the antithesis of modern Premil

    You don't address the points and Scripture presented to you directly. You just make a speech. This is what it is like to engage with Premils. There are 2 kingdom - the kingdom of God and the kingdom of darkness. You make 2 kingdoms of God. That is wrong. There is only one unitary kingdom of...
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    The beliefs of the early Chiliasts were the antithesis of modern Premil

    I am not sinking into your dark ongoing pit of bitterness, insults and ad hominem. You love it, I hate it. Bye bye. Come back when you are going to act like a Christian.
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    The beliefs of the early Chiliasts were the antithesis of modern Premil

    In the light of the introduction of the new covenant, and within a New Testament context, Paul takes time to examine the whole dynamic between national Israel and God’s righteous remnant. Romans 11:25-29 tells us: “For I would not, brethren, that ye should be ignorant of this mystery, lest ye...
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    The beliefs of the early Chiliasts were the antithesis of modern Premil

    I never heard such nonsense in my life! The election are the elect. Hello! I am beginning the think Premils have lost it.