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sorry, your reply is not persuasive.

You conveniently distort. It is not possible to have a reasonable conversation in this climate.

an embrace is a great thing but being enveloped is far superior :)

Do you recall the story Jesus told about the Pharisee and the Publican both going to the temple to pray? Luke 18:9-14 Looking at your list above, which of those two characters would you say identifies with your list?

see, as I understand what is happening in your thinking is that you assume that your sense or understanding of justice is God's sense and understanding of justice....which comes down to revenge, you know, pay back.....and you read these texts through that lens. My understanding of justice...

and will your flesh be eaten?

You are intent on misrepresenting the scripture whose emphasis is Adam and Jesus not Mary and Eve. This is how the system you uphold has done it through the ages. You attempt to eclipse the straightforward and plain words of inspiration with inverted and twisted understandings. Shame on you!

If it wasn't convincing to many it would hardly be a ruse Gary. Trusting our senses over and above what the scriptures declare is a sure trap.

you trap yourself in your own web Mm.

There are forces operating around us beyond our control Gary. If it were not for God's protection all of us would be sitting ducks, however, if we continue to push God's protection aside because it doesn't suit our immediate understanding, we open ourselves to elements we little understand. The...

Misunderstanding in this matter opens the door for demons....it preps you for communication with forces you mistakenly believe are the departed.

that's pretty slippery G. Do you really want to live in that world?

God is merciful Gary. Dead people are dead souls. While we are alive our choices regarding how we relate to God are open but once the doors of life are closed and death envelopes us, the end of the road is reached as far as consciousness goes. Ecclesiastes 9:5-6 For the living know that they...

what do you hope to achieve by praying for them Gary?

:)...isn't it wonderful when a greater truth eclipses a lesser truth?

Because they are dead! or is the word 'dead' not understood?

Kermos, I am glad for you and to answer your question, Jesus has chosen us all and I have responded to his call so in that sense I can say I have chosen him. I find no value in arguing semantics. Our understanding of these things will surely grow if our hearts are open.

what do you think this means Curtis?

so there is life after death!

G'day sparkly eyes with wild hair.....I'm a salty ole dog....now that does not mean I'm a replica of Lot's wife. When the wind is in my sails my eyes go sparkly and my hair goes wild as well. Now the question is, do I sprinkle the salt on the fish or just pour it on? In my experience, pouring...