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    22 major reasons to abandon the Premil doctrine

    If you're so besotted by these millennial animal sacrifices, why not start them up every Sunday in church?
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    22 major reasons to abandon the Premil doctrine

    No, you're not. You are totally misrepresenting Scripture. You're trying to promote a ceremonial system that has been long-abolished. You're fighting with Jesus and the New Testament.
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    22 major reasons to abandon the Premil doctrine

    Romans 9:6-13: “For they are not all Israel, which are of Israel: Neither, because they are the seed of Abraham, are they all children: but, In Isaac shall thy seed be called. That is, they which are the children of the flesh, these are not the children of God: but the children of the promise...
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    22 major reasons to abandon the Premil doctrine

    Exactly bro! They know in their hearts if they are saved and if the have the Holy Ghost that what they teach is a reproach to Christ and the cross. It is reprehensible. Imagine the religious trying to perform this nonsense on the new earth in front of the risen Christ and the glorified saints...
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    22 major reasons to abandon the Premil doctrine

    Your conclusion is totally wrong. It is unbiblical. Stop avoiding multiple Scripture above that forbid your position. This is what Premils do. This is the only way their position is sustained. The Scriptures expose your beliefs. Please address!
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    22 major reasons to abandon the Premil doctrine

    This is speaking about true Israel. It is not talking about all Jews. Premillennialists are focused on the wrong Israel. Regardless of the disobedience, regardless of the schemes of Satan, there is a remnant of Jews of the seed of Israel which shall not cease from being a nation. They belong to...
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    22 major reasons to abandon the Premil doctrine

    Colossians 2:14 plainly and unambiguously declares, that Christ's atonement resulted in the “Blotting out the handwriting of ordinances that was against us, which was contrary to us, and took it out of the way, nailing it to his cross.” The Greek word for “Blotting out” here is exaleiphō...
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    22 major reasons to abandon the Premil doctrine

    It is near impossible to get Premils to move from their fixation with the old covenant arrangement into the freedom of the new covenant. The ceremonial law was simply a signpost to Christ. No more. The cross removed this imperfect system. The shadow and the temporal could only remain until the...
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    22 major reasons to abandon the Premil doctrine

    Totally wrong! This is exactly what Premil produces. One error produces another error. That is Premil in a nutshell. Zechariah 14 is long-fulfilled. I have showed this many times. The NT demonstrates that the old abolished ceremonial system is gone forever. You have no NT Scripture to show...
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    22 major reasons to abandon the Premil doctrine

    You didn't even address my response (as is the Premil pattern). What part is incorrect? I am getting weary of your private opinions and avoidance. That is all you seem to have. Show us hard Scripture that proves animal sacrifices are resurrected in your future millennium and show us what...
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    22 major reasons to abandon the Premil doctrine

    Animal sacrifices were a forward-pointing signpost to Calvary. They made atonement for Israel's sin. They cleansed the sinner. They covered the sin of God's people temporarily until the promise came. They sanctified the people of God. Then they were rendered redundant by the cross-work. Hebrews...
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    22 major reasons to abandon the Premil doctrine

    Why are Premils so childish? I didn't think you would because you cannot. Your promotion old covenant blood sacrifices again in the future is totally ridiculous and deeply anti-biblical. If you are so in love with them, why do you not start them now in your church? Why wait till some supposed...
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    The beliefs of the early Chiliasts were the antithesis of modern Premil

    Please address the subject above if you are interested in engaging on this subject.
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    22 major reasons to abandon the Premil doctrine

    The suffering servant revelation was an ongoing OT revelation to Israel from the Garden. It is seen in the ceremonial ritual. It is seen in the prophecies of the Moses and the prophets. David enjoyed that same hope. The degree of revelation is not the big issue, it is the existence of the...
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    22 major reasons to abandon the Premil doctrine

    LOL. Here you go again! Why are you so uncomfortable with answering this question??? You are the one claiming animal sacrifices will be introduced in the future yet seem incapable of actually explaining why and what they achieve. Stop ducking around this. You are only exposing the foolishness of...
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    The beliefs of the early Chiliasts were the antithesis of modern Premil

    You are so petty and infantile. You are oozing bitterness and frustration. Grow up. I disagree with your conclusions in #113. It is just Premillennialist dogma. Can I remind you? The subject of this thread is the early church fathers. You are totally ducking around the issues.
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    The beliefs of the early Chiliasts were the antithesis of modern Premil

    2+2=4, not 22. You really do not get this. You're just relaying classic Pretribulation error. The great tribulation is the persecution of antichrist against the Church. The wrath of God is from God at the end and destroys all the wicked.
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    The beliefs of the early Chiliasts were the antithesis of modern Premil

    Where does it say that in the text? Your opinion doesn't cut it.
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    The beliefs of the early Chiliasts were the antithesis of modern Premil

    Quote it and show the parallel, if you can.
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    The beliefs of the early Chiliasts were the antithesis of modern Premil

    You seem to be misrepresenting the early Chiliasts, just because they do not agree with you. The fact is, they had a deeper revelation of Old and New Testament truth than most believers today. They had a broad, thorough and compelling understanding of many biblical truths. They were forced to...