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  1. Wrangler

    Jesus is Jehovah the YHWH of the Old Testament

    Not merely ignorance but Appeal to Ad Homenim. I don't need to refute your claim, only call you a pejorative term. You are a "JW," which means nothing you say can possibly have any validity for anyone put in this horrible category has already been demonized, dehumanized and excommunicated from...
  2. Wrangler

    Jesus is Jehovah the YHWH of the Old Testament

    Hard to grasp. Nonsense. Not the same thing. Round Squares are not "hard to grasp" they are a contradiction in terms, as is the doctrine you advocate.
  3. Wrangler

    Jesus is Jehovah the YHWH of the Old Testament

    No one needs to go to an eisegesis website to know being one with another person is not same as one being. This is language usage we still invoke today.
  4. Wrangler

    Jesus is Jehovah the YHWH of the Old Testament

    I find the intellectual dishonesty stunning! Just sweep away verses they don't like and only allow verses they prefer to discuss. Just stunning.
  5. Wrangler

    Jesus is Jehovah the YHWH of the Old Testament

    I never caught that before - his word. I wonder how those who hold Jesus is the word reconciles Jesus observing someone else's word?
  6. Wrangler

    Jesus is Jehovah the YHWH of the Old Testament

    No. From Tetragrammaton - Wikipedia: "to be", "to exist", "to cause to become", or "to come to pass" The VOICE translation uses the word eternal to more closely cover the meaning, which is much more than merely "I am." Aristotle referred to it as the First Mover or Cause.
  7. Wrangler

    Will unbelievers never be saved?

    Assertion, yes. Proof, no. I look forward to your brief analysis of Scripture and logic superceding what was presented in the OP. Regarding context; that's why the challenge is there: To reconcile John 3:18 with Romans 2:6, 14-15 and 1 Tim 4:10. Here is a context to consider, the slaying of...
  8. Wrangler

    Will unbelievers never be saved?

    Perhaps but such esoteric parsing does not concern me. I’m primarily concerned with billions of good people - based on their deeds in following the law God wrote on their hearts - who do not believe in the son, persuant to Romans 2:6, 14-15 and 1 Tim 4:10.
  9. Wrangler

    Will unbelievers never be saved?

    No. You haven't answered my question and it cannot be answered by quoting Scripture because the question is how do you reconcile Scripture verses already on the table. Again, repeating yourself. I already pointed out how "the law" does not pertain to the group under question in this thread...
  10. Wrangler

    Will unbelievers never be saved?

    LOL. You don't think that is a contradiction? You are funny.
  11. Wrangler

    Will unbelievers never be saved?

    Now you are just repeating yourself, which shows a complete lack of understanding of how language is used. I demonstrated this via upstairs TV. "Better" is a relative term. The verse does not read existence is better than non-existence, salvation is better than annihilation. And what is being...
  12. Wrangler

    Will unbelievers never be saved?

    You should participate in conversation - not monologue. Joe, I look forward to your answer to the reconciliation question. Thanks.
  13. Wrangler

    Will unbelievers never be saved?

    A “better” salvation implies there is a salvation for those without faith. The TV upstairs is better implies there is a TV downstairs - not that down stairs has no TV. Of course that is what it is teaching! As @Episkopos said, the verse reads ‘especially’ not ‘exclusively.’ If the text read...
  14. Wrangler

    Will unbelievers never be saved?

    I appreciate your attempt at brevity. Now we are getting somewhere. You are so eager to reveal the pedant in you that you don’t even realize ‘The Law’ does not apply to unbelieving Gentiles. This threads topic is about a group you don’t seem to want to talk about or acknowledge exist. Why...
  15. Wrangler

    Will unbelievers never be saved?

    Growing up Catholic, many got this wrong. It’s not merely eternal life but having the Spirit of God dwell in us NOW, with the peace that transcends all understanding NOW. The thing about our inheritance, someone has to die to receive it - and that is us; we have to die daily to self, as Paul...
  16. Wrangler

    Will unbelievers never be saved?

    Excellent reference!
  17. Wrangler

    Will unbelievers never be saved?

    I think this is correct. God delegated judgement to Jesus as you say. That is, it is Jesus we will stand before on Judgement Day. Every single one of us. Everyone saved or condemned is so at Jesus' determination. And in this way, we are saved through Jesus Christ. How do you reconcile...
  18. Wrangler

    Why didn't god give every soul as much time as it needed to become good? Why send so many to hell?

    Are you familiar with logic and logical fallacies? Above you posit what is called circular reasoning, invent a standard designed to "fail" God. Have you read the Bible? Where does it say god is evil, even by his own standards? If that is nowhere, then an inquiring mind wants to know where did...
  19. Wrangler

    Why didn't god give every soul as much time as it needed to become good? Why send so many to hell?

    Welcome to CyB. Hell is just a holding place for the dead. The possible destinations for our eternity is neither heaven nor hell. Heaven is a place for spirit beings, which is not us. Revelation is a new Earth and we in a new glorified body for the saved. The rest are annihilated in the Lake of...
  20. Wrangler

    Will unbelievers never be saved?

    Friend. I am a binary thinker. Simple yes or no answers will generally suffice. Your replies tend to be non responsive to my question. I asked a yes or no question about v 18. If you cannot answer it, that's OK. :D How do you reconcile John 3:16-18 with the verses from the OP?