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If Agape love fulfills the law. Then anything down not our of love is sin. Basically it comes down to anything we do in the flesh, or not out of love. Thats why we can do a good deed. But not out of love, but selfishly, and this is sin.

I can see this. Depends on what our defenition of sin is This is a defenition amen Did you know the actual word “hamarte” means “miss the mark” what is the mark we missed?

again, I could be misunderstanding you, But I would say this thinking comes from a lack of understanding of what sin is. Paul had a besetting sin, Many believe his thorn in the flesh was given to help him curb this sin (pride) I do not like this term use grace as a cop out. I do not know who...

I see I just do not think we do this perfectly. Which is what it would require

Perfect love is fulfilling g the law. Anything short is sin I ask myself do I live my wife perfectly. Of course my answer is no. So if I do not love her perfectly. How do I live my enemy perfectly?

How does this happen? When do we reach the perfect state of agape love for all people?

I see it different The more we see Jesus for who he is the more sinful we realize we really are. Because he is perfect love. We have not reached that state yet. It will be a lifetime goal.

Be careful. While I believe we can be sinless for a time I do not think we can be sinless I think the big issue is people do Not know what sin is. They look at the overt sins like don’t drink cuss or smoke. But sin is much deeper than this. If we look to the law of love I think we can start...

lol, we have done it in many chatrooms and many threads.. Most of which he is not even allowed to return to anymore.. Just the few left in this chatroom. I doubt after all that, he will listen now. But we can pray.

well it would not be hard to do. You already point inward. She Is tryign to get you to look upward though \So are you a novice believer? lol.. Well your way is not right.. thats for sure. it does not even seem right.. anyone can look and if they are open see it points directly to self.

Well no. If you’re going to falsly accuse me, or attack me like you both have done. It won’t end well. Because i will call you out for it I am sure you would do the same,

lol But your talking to me, not to calvin Your looking through a calvinist lease, thats why you are unable to hear a word i say. Your fight is with calvin, not me, When you’re ready to discuss the word. And not calvin or arminian theology. Let me know

I actually was showing her how we should not respond. Like the way you respond to me. see here.. You just attack and accuse. No substance. You do not even know what I believe. But go right on ahead no sweat off my back

It’s funny. I just have to laugh This person swears I am Calvinist because I believe eternal security and no matter what I say she looks at me through that lense In another thead I have a Calvinist insisting I am Arminian because I have the audacity to see we have free will and are saved by...

See @Wynona this is how you do not discuss things. You are so set in your doctrine you can’t hear a word the other says.

No once again you misrepresent me Works of the law or whatever if you do it to be saved it’s self righteousness If done to be saved yes and they will not save you or keep you saved Well you are lacking in knowledge. Cc believes in a lot of works. But thank you

I see a lot of people think this. But scripture can not contradict itself It says they had knowledge. Knowledge does Not save you faith does And u agree it is better for them to Never have known the way imagine spending eternity having knowledge and never acting on that knowledge in faith...

I am saying that no one who truly experienced the love of God. Who truly understood the depth of their sin and that their eternity would be away from God if they were not saved, and truly understood the meaning of the cross would never repent back to a state of unbelief. My salvation is not...

Got to love epi and his group of women who love everything he posts Does that make you feel good epi? Because that is the only reward you will get if you do not repent

Actually I know you did not. I was trying to show you the context of how I was using th Barr Actually it is grace (the work of god) plus nothing that saves us But we have to trust that grace. If we do not. We will never recieve it. I am not sure what you were taught but ut does seem to be in...