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  1. Spiritual Israelite

    When did the 2nd temple literally initially cease being the holy place?

    How long do you think the 7 last plagues last? Consider that Paul explicitly indicated that the day of the Lord will bring "sudden destruction" when it comes unexpectedly as a thief in the night and the destruction will be so complete that all of those in spiritual darkness "shall not escape"...
  2. Spiritual Israelite

    When did the 2nd temple literally initially cease being the holy place?

    Something indicating the inevitably of an event does not mean that event is near. And, again, global events are not signs of a coming local event. No, I was listing all the things that would be included in "all these things" in Luke 21:36 if Jesus was talking about literally all the things that...
  3. Spiritual Israelite

    Can a tare become saved?

    Are you aware that literally everyone will appear before the judgment seat of Christ to confess that Jesus is Lord and not just those in the body of Christ? Romans 14:10 But why dost thou judge thy brother? or why dost thou set at nought thy brother? for we shall all stand before the judgment...
  4. Spiritual Israelite

    When did the 2nd temple literally initially cease being the holy place?

    You focus on the word genea, but what about what has been said about the word "houtos"? You assume that "this generation" must refer to the generation of the time when Jesus was speaking, but it's been shown that the word "houtos" can mean "the same" as well. In Matthew 24:33 Jesus was speaking...
  5. Spiritual Israelite

    When did the 2nd temple literally initially cease being the holy place?

    That's all I ask, but at this point I don't think I will forget what you mean if you use that term again. So, it's fine. I'm sorry, but I cannot understand what you're saying. To me, it's clear that the disciples were talking about the temple buildings standing at that time and how impressed...
  6. Spiritual Israelite

    Proof Christ will not leave the Father's side for 1000 year separation to reign on this earth

    What do you mean by that? God the Father is a Spirit (John 4:24), so you should not think of Him as a physical being. God the Father is everywhere at all times, so it's not a matter of the Father coming with Him. He's already here. He's also in heaven. He's everywhere. He does not have to travel...
  7. Spiritual Israelite

    Premillennialism contradicts scripture (1 Corinthians 15:50-54) by having mortal flesh and blood inheriting the kingdom of God when Jesus returns.

    How about you show us how exactly someone can inherit the kingdom of God in the future with a mortal body despite Paul saying that mortal flesh and blood cannot inherit the kingdom of God. That's what you believe will happen, right? Can you show that with scripture?
  8. Spiritual Israelite

    Premillennialism contradicts scripture (1 Corinthians 15:50-54) by having mortal flesh and blood inheriting the kingdom of God when Jesus returns.

    LOL. The cultist who denies the deity of Christ is saying I have a lack of knowledge. That's rich coming from you. You said this... You said the kingdom of God is not currently present. But, showing that it is present spiritually is not relevant to what you said? Yes, it is. Do you deny that we...
  9. Spiritual Israelite

    Can a tare become saved?

    The rich man's torment is described figuratively. There is no indication whatsoever that Jesus is talking there about the future time when people will be cast into the lake of fire. He was talking about a current reality at the time. He said the rich man is in hell/Hades, not the lake of fire...
  10. Spiritual Israelite

    Can a tare become saved?

    Why in the world are you talking to me if you don't want to even try to see my point of view? Please stop talking to me then. I'm done talking to you since I would prefer to talk to someone who at least tries to see my point of view. That will never happen, so we should not go any further...
  11. Spiritual Israelite

    Premillennialism contradicts scripture (1 Corinthians 15:50-54) by having mortal flesh and blood inheriting the kingdom of God when Jesus returns.

    I didn't say it did mean that. But, you need to address what we believe, not what you believe. If you want to argue that the beast and false prophet are human beings, then go ahead, but you should address Amil according to what we believe. And, based on our understanding of Revelation 19:11-21...
  12. Spiritual Israelite

    Premillennialism contradicts scripture (1 Corinthians 15:50-54) by having mortal flesh and blood inheriting the kingdom of God when Jesus returns.

    How do those disprove Amill? Matthew 19:28 says nothing about ruling over an earthly millennial kingdom after Jesus returns. Neither do Revelation 3:9 and Revelation 3:21. Your evidence for proving Premil is very flimsy. Can you show me where Jesus refers to those who supposedly will populate...
  13. Spiritual Israelite

    Premillennialism contradicts scripture (1 Corinthians 15:50-54) by having mortal flesh and blood inheriting the kingdom of God when Jesus returns.

    That is the question I have about his view as well. To be immortal means you can't die, so how can immortals be destroyed by fire as Revelation 20:9 describes? Do you just forget everything that Amills ever tell you? We do not believe the beast (first beast) and the false prophet (second beast)...
  14. Spiritual Israelite

    Premillennialism contradicts scripture (1 Corinthians 15:50-54) by having mortal flesh and blood inheriting the kingdom of God when Jesus returns.

    That is complete nonsense. Why do you make no differentiation between the spiritual kingdom of God we're in now due to having been born again (born of the Spirit) and the future coming of the kingdom of God in its fullness that we will inherit with immortal bodies? John 3:3 Jesus answered and...
  15. Spiritual Israelite

    SETTLING THE FALSE THEORY OF REPLACEMENT THEOLOGY

    Once again you have misunderstood something you have read. Your reading comprehension skills are still very poor, I see. I did NOT say that YOU said that. You gave evidence for why that is not true, right? I'm not disagreeing that it's not true, but I was showing what Paul gave as the evidence...
  16. Spiritual Israelite

    When did the 2nd temple literally initially cease being the holy place?

    Nowhere does it indicate that those things would indicate that the end was near. Also, since they were global things that He was talking about that means they were mentioned in relation to a coming global event and not to a coming local event. Tell me this. Similar to what Jesus did in Matthew...
  17. Spiritual Israelite

    When did the 2nd temple literally initially cease being the holy place?

    I didn't say that couldn't happen. I actually think it will be along with the entire earth, according to 2 Peter 3:10-13. But, what I'm saying is that I don't believe that any verses or passages like Luke 21:20-24 have more than one fulfillment. Is that what you believe? Do you believe Luke...
  18. Spiritual Israelite

    Can a tare become saved?

    There's this thing called prison. I don't know why you act as if the only way to stop someone is to kill them. Do you think God want us to kill all evil people? Or at least the ones we deem to be the worst of them? Which would mean if we lived in Paul's day when he was Saul instead of Paul, we...
  19. Spiritual Israelite

    Can a tare become saved?

    Did you not read my post 501 which was directed to you? Believing is a work only in the sense that it's something we are required to do (Acts 16:30-31), but it is not the kind of work of which someone can boast about that is not required for salvation or else it would not be true that we are...
  20. Spiritual Israelite

    Can a tare become saved?

    First, you say you agree it should be viewed from God's perspective, and then you talk about something from your own real time perspective. I don't get that, but whatever. I don't even understand this question, so I can't answer it until I understand it. We, of course, should always try to help...