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    22 major reasons to abandon the Premil doctrine

    Where in the Bible does it teach that the day of the Lord is exactly 1000 years? So, we are now in 6022? That blows apart your mistaken theory. You now believe we are in the millennium?
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    22 major reasons to abandon the Premil doctrine

    You are totally not getting the spiritual nature of the kingdom of God today. You really need to read up on the New Testament and see what Jesus actually described instead of what you've been taught. Entering in to that spiritual kingdom in this life brings an immediate realization in the ‘here...
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    22 major reasons to abandon the Premil doctrine

    Not so! That is a modern Premil invention. The Messiah has come. He has introduced His kingdom. It is a heavenly kingdom. The old is gone! He is reigning over His enemies now at the right hand of majesty. All the ECFs agreed with that - Chiliast and Amil. Most Premillennialists teach that...
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    22 major reasons to abandon the Premil doctrine

    No, that happened at the First Advent. Psalms 119:137-138, 142 outlines, “Righteous art thou, O LORD, and upright are thy judgments. Thy testimonies that thou hast commanded are righteous and very faithful … Thy righteousness is an everlasting righteousness, and thy law is the truth.” Christ is...
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    22 major reasons to abandon the Premil doctrine

    How about furnishing us with Scripture.
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    22 major reasons to abandon the Premil doctrine

    Not in your beliefs. This is not the end of this corrupt world or of time in Premil. You add another age on this is a rerun of this age. Sin and sinners, dying and crying, deceit and decay grow.
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    22 major reasons to abandon the Premil doctrine

    I misspoke. It is the second coming. That has always been my view. I edited my last post.
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    22 major reasons to abandon the Premil doctrine

    You seem totally incapable of responding without insults and chides. Sad! Hello! The temple is gone since AD70 and will be to the coming of Christ. Simple to those who are not indoctrinated by Dispensationalism.
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    22 major reasons to abandon the Premil doctrine

    I never claimed that the "consummation" was fulfilled at Calvary. It relates to the second coming of Jesus Christ.
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    22 major reasons to abandon the Premil doctrine

    While the rebuilding of the city was to occur within the 70 weeks (the first 7 weeks specifically) the date of the final destruction of the temple – which resulted from the once all-sufficient sacrifice for sin (in the midst of the 70th week) as predicted in Daniel 9:24 – is NOT specified. It...
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    22 major reasons to abandon the Premil doctrine

    Daniel 9:27 says, “And he shall confirm the covenant with many for one week: and in the midst of the week he shall cause the sacrifice and the oblation to cease.” “for” Before advancing into this matter further let us first note: the word “for” is not in the original text. It was an English...
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    22 major reasons to abandon the Premil doctrine

    Of course! You Dispies agree on these matters. We have been saying that for a long time. The “overspreading of abominations” was the rebellious idolatrous continuing of the temple sacrifices by the Jews after they were abolished at Calvary (1/2 way through the final week). And despite God...
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    22 major reasons to abandon the Premil doctrine

    I am not disagreeing. You're not getting my questions. Please read them slowly. I am addressing your decapitation of a harmonious prophecy. Can you give me another example in Scripture of such a decapitation of a harmonious time-period - like where God says 7 days and He didn't mean a linear...
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    22 major reasons to abandon the Premil doctrine

    There is nothing described in Daniel 9 that necessarily needs to be fulfilled in the second 3 ½ years of the week. What this prophecy is essentially teaching is that those things predicted to occur in this prediction had to be completed within 70 weeks. It doesn't mean they had to take a full 70...
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    22 major reasons to abandon the Premil doctrine

    LOL. Have a look at the temple mount, or get on a plane to Israel and you will the evidence.
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    22 major reasons to abandon the Premil doctrine

    The desolation of the temple lasts till the coming of Christ, the consummation (which you reject as the consummation). Ok, so how much space in time is there between the 7 weeks marker and the 8 weeks marker?
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    22 major reasons to abandon the Premil doctrine

    Here we go again! Please stop avoiding my questions. Avoidance seems to be a popular Premil trait on these forums. It is you that is decapitating the 70 weeks. Can you give me another example in Scripture of such a decapitation of a harmonious time-period - like where God says 7 days and He...
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    22 major reasons to abandon the Premil doctrine

    Where does it say it is broken? Your teachers have taught you wrong.
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    22 major reasons to abandon the Premil doctrine

    (1) The first part (7 weeks) relates to the rebuilding of Jerusalem. The angel said of the first aspect relating to the rebuilding of Jerusalem, in the first seven weeks, “the street shall be built again, and the wall, even in troublous times.” (2) The second part (62 weeks) takes up to the...
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    22 major reasons to abandon the Premil doctrine

    Can you give me another example in Scripture of such a decapitation of a harmonious time-period - like where God says 7 days and He didn't mean a linear, congruent and sequential 7 days, or 7 years and He didn't mean a linear, congruent and sequential 7 years, or 70 years and He didn't mean a...