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  1. Spiritual Israelite

    Can a tare become saved?

    Did you read John 17:12? John 17:12 While I was with them in the world, I kept them in thy name: those that thou gavest me I have kept, and none of them is lost, but the son of perdition; that the scripture might be fulfilled. So, you are saying you think that Satan was given to Jesus and was...
  2. Spiritual Israelite

    The Four Stages of Mankind's Redemption:

    That is how I feel about you. So, should we continue insulting each other or agree to disagree and move on? Wrong. I accept what the NT authors tell us. If they say the new covenant has been established and in effect, which they do, then I accept it. You don't. LOL. Why do you ignore Hebrews...
  3. Spiritual Israelite

    The Four Stages of Mankind's Redemption:

    One of those who believes the deep things of God have to be spiritually discerned as Paul said? Yes, absolutely I am one of those. You are applying the understanding that the Holy Spirit gives us, that Paul talked about, to mysticism? What is wrong with you? You need to show the Holy Spirit...
  4. Spiritual Israelite

    Can a tare become saved?

    I say the same to you. I try to be as clear as possible, but I suppose I don't always succeed. No. And neither have you. There is no such thing as a literal bottomless pit that we can see. Any pit we can see would reach bottom eventually. The pit being bottomless is a figurative expression. The...
  5. Spiritual Israelite

    Can a tare become saved?

    It's amazing to me that any Premil would acknowledge that it's not literal, and I have never seen any Premil acknowledge that before, so I did just assume that. Glad you at least recognize that it's not literal. The only thing he is said to not be able to do is to deceive the nations. You...
  6. Spiritual Israelite

    All who are not taken up to meet the Lord in the air when He comes will be left behind and killed.

    Goodness sakes. So, you think He mentioned the rewards for no reason then? We should not think that any rewards are given at the same time as the punishments? Do you not believe in the concept of interpreting scripture with scripture? How about showing how the parable fits your presupposed...
  7. Spiritual Israelite

    When did the 2nd temple literally initially cease being the holy place?

    I think that is a good use of it for you and I have no problem with that.
  8. Spiritual Israelite

    When did the 2nd temple literally initially cease being the holy place?

    You're not crazy. I don't trust it, either, because it has no filter to only give the truth as feedback. It basically searches the Internet for you and then shows you what it finds. Obviously, not everything on the Internet is true. Not even close. It can provide info to take into consideration...
  9. Spiritual Israelite

    Can a tare become saved?

    Goodness sakes. Why do you insist on misrepresenting almost everything I say? Show me where I said verse 25 is insignificant. Is it your goal to just annoy me? I have tried to offer an olive branch to you to stop these personal insults and you apparently have decided to reject that offer and...
  10. Spiritual Israelite

    When did the 2nd temple literally initially cease being the holy place?

    So, @David in NJ misrepresented you and I can't help but wonder if it was on purpose.
  11. Spiritual Israelite

    When did the 2nd temple literally initially cease being the holy place?

    And, to be clear, you do not believe that there will be any "re-creation of the past fulfillment" of anything that you believe was fulfilled in the past, right?
  12. Spiritual Israelite

    Surely Premils must invent 2 future glorifications days and 2 future raptures separated by 1000 years+?

    They won't admit it because of pride. I've lost track of how many of our arguments have gone unanswered by Premils at this point.
  13. Spiritual Israelite

    When did the 2nd temple literally initially cease being the holy place?

    Yes. All it does is searches the Internet and summarizes the information it finds, which may or may not be true.
  14. Spiritual Israelite

    Can a tare become saved?

    I implied no such thing. Not even close. Yes, exactly. And I am saying that Satan's binding relates to that. Part of what caused his binding is Jesus taking the power of death away from Satan by way of His own death so that Satan could no longer keep people in slavery to the f In some...
  15. Spiritual Israelite

    Can a tare become saved?

    I don't need your help. You confuse passion with random thoughtless arguments. No matter how calmly you present your arguments, they are still false. Ok, Dr. CadyandZoe. Spare me your holier than thou lectures and just address my arguments. This is where you go off the rails. You are not...
  16. Spiritual Israelite

    All who are not taken up to meet the Lord in the air when He comes will be left behind and killed.

    LOL. Part of the point of the parable is certainly about that. How can you deny that? Why do you try to avoid that part of the parable? In order to discern what the parable is about requires first understanding that it involves an event where believers are rewarded and unbelievers are punished...
  17. Spiritual Israelite

    Can a tare become saved?

    What does this have to do with what I said? I was talking about this verse... John 17:12 While I was with them in the world, I kept them in thy name: those that thou gavest me I have kept, and none of them is lost, but the son of perdition; that the scripture might be fulfilled. This is...
  18. Spiritual Israelite

    A proof that the 1000 year reign of Christ with His people is in the heavenly throne room, not the earth

    Why do you speak of that only in a future sense? Have you never read this... Hebrews 12:18 For ye are not come unto the mount that might be touched, and that burned with fire, nor unto blackness, and darkness, and tempest....22 But ye are come unto mount Sion, and unto the city of the living...
  19. Spiritual Israelite

    The unknown single most important thing to be sure to know if you meet a JW.

    Yes, they blatantly lie because their beliefs are deceptive and part of deceiving is to hide what they actually believe while pretending as if their beliefs are Christian.