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    22 major reasons to abandon the Premil doctrine

    Revelation 19 forbids your theology! Revelation 19:11-16, “And I saw heaven opened, and behold a white horse; and he that sat upon him was called Faithful and True, and in righteousness he doth judge and make war. His eyes were as a flame of fire, and on his head were many crowns; and he had a...
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    The founding fathers of modern-day Premillennialism were heretics.

    When have I called you a heretic? Nowhere! I will repeat: it is the origins of your doctrine that is found among the heretics.
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    22 major reasons to abandon the Premil doctrine

    I addressed this, and (as is your form), you avoided it. The Greek word for "first" (as in first resurrection) is protos. It is a contracted superlative meaning foremost (in time, place, order and/or importance). So which is the "first" (or protos) resurrection - Christ's or the resurrection...
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    22 major reasons to abandon the Premil doctrine

    The surrounding language proves the Amil thesis. It is talking about the natural visible corrupted universe coming to an end when Jesus comes. Time also comes to an end. These forbid your attempt at explaining away the literal detail of 2 Peter 3. Premils have no answer to that. The duplicity of...
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    22 major reasons to abandon the Premil doctrine

    There is no sense of objective analyze with the Premil approach to Rev 20. They force a literal interpretation upon the most symbolic of language. They seem to have no grasp of apocalyptic language. They also do not seem no understand the importance of corroboration (interpreting Scripture with...
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    The founding fathers of modern-day Premillennialism were heretics.

    Give me the links on the other threads where I demanded proof from the ECF's? You claim such nonsense but have zero evidence for it. That is blatant lies. What is more, I did not call you a heretic or what you believe heresy. That is more lies. I said the roots of your beliefs are found among...
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    The founding fathers of modern-day Premillennialism were heretics.

    I have no interest in insulting you. It is you that threw out the ad hominem and refuse to withdraw it or apologize for it. The hard thing with engaging with you is that you viciously attack the character of anyone that questions you and you also refuse to address the rebuttals that...
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    The founding fathers of modern-day Premillennialism were heretics.

    The problem is: you invent 3 ages when Scripture only recognizes 2. Christ and the New Testament writers only recognize two overriding ages in their teaching – “this world/age” and “the world/age to come.” One is current, corrupt and temporal and the other is impending, perfect and eternal. One...
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    The founding fathers of modern-day Premillennialism were heretics.

    Op Note Whilst ancient and modern Amillennialists share much in common with the earliest Chiliast fathers in regard to the character of the earth, those who inhabit it and the environment produced that follows the return of Christ, they go their separate ways with them on their view of the...
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    The founding fathers of modern-day Premillennialism were heretics.

    You are not addressing the evidence. Notwithstanding, I am not going to get into name-calling with you. We agree on a lot more than we disagree on. Sorry if I offended you. That was not my intent.
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    The founding fathers of modern-day Premillennialism were heretics.

    It is a long response that you totally avoided! You failed to address all the biblical evidence contained within that post. I will therefore repeat it and make key additions. There is no 3rd temple mention in Scripture. One cannot help but see the drastic move away from the physical to the...
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    22 major reasons to abandon the Premil doctrine

    You are just contradicting everything you just said. Hmmm!
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    The founding fathers of modern-day Premillennialism were heretics.

    It is actually you that is promoting Dispensationalism. Very sad!
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    The founding fathers of modern-day Premillennialism were heretics.

    I would rather be a "Partial Preterist" than run with Pretrib theology.
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    The founding fathers of modern-day Premillennialism were heretics.

    2 different tribs. One was AD70. The other is future. Read what I wrote please. I am starting to think you are just skimming it.
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    The founding fathers of modern-day Premillennialism were heretics.

    I was not even talking to you. Why would you respond like that? I told you i am not Preterist. I am an Amil Idealist. Please stop misrepresenting.
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    The founding fathers of modern-day Premillennialism were heretics.

    No. it is desolate till the coming of Christ. I showed you the Scriptures. Please reread the NT evidence i presented. You are again making the same mistake Pretribbers make - explaining away the NT with your mistaken opinion of the OT.
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    The founding fathers of modern-day Premillennialism were heretics.

    How about giving all your corroboration for your opinion of Revelation 20. The day of salvation has been ongoing since the Fall (Isaiah 49:8 and 2 Corinthians 6:2). It is the “acceptable time” or “acceptable year” (Isaiah 49:8, 61:2, Luke 4:19) to be saved. “Today” is an age of grace the only...
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    The founding fathers of modern-day Premillennialism were heretics.

    I do not know what you're trying to say. Your grammar is terrible.