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  1. Wrangler

    Why Civilization Should Defend Zionism

    You worship what you do not know; we worship what we know, for salvation is from the Jews. NCB You worship what you do not know; we worship what we do know, for salvation is from the Jews. NCV You Samaritans worship something you don’t understand. We understand what we worship, because salvation...
  2. Wrangler

    Why Civilization Should Defend Zionism

    Yup, I do that. That's exactly right. The terms are now synonyms. I've asked repeatedly what is the difference and you cannot provide a straight answer. Salvation comes through the Jews, the Bible tells us - not through Israel. But you have no response to that either (other than claim it is a...
  3. Wrangler

    Why Civilization Should Defend Zionism

    Zion is in the Bible. It is a simple fact. LANGUAGE USAGE: Zion refers to Canaan or Palestine or Israel, generally, and a mountain therein, specifically. It’s like when people reference Washington. Is it a person, a geographical area or the seat of power? Yes, Zion is a Jewish place and...
  4. Wrangler

    Why Civilization Should Defend Zionism

    Zion is in the Bible @Truthnightmare, written about 950 BC. Psalm 9:11 Wycliffe Bible 11 Sing ye [psalms] to the Lord, that dwellethin Zion; tell ye his studies among heathen men. (Sing ye songs to the Lord, who liveth in Zion; tell ye of his deeds to the heathen.)
  5. Wrangler

    Objects and things designed with hidden meanings and intentions

    The cross is a great Christian example of symbology. The Romans used it as the ultimate form of torture. Our great God turned it into the ultimate symbol of hope for all humanity.
  6. Wrangler

    Objects and things designed with hidden meanings and intentions

    Thanks for starting this thread APAK. Great topic! The Decline of the West by Oswald Spengler delves deeply into the subject of symbology. His insight is that art is the leading indicator of cultural evolution, noting that the meaning of the symbols change over time. A great example in our...
  7. Wrangler

    Complete unconditional immunity for police officers

    If this were true, they would not be engaged in lawfare to prevent a repeat of his embarrassing landslide re-election. If I may, you are engaging in the fallacy of Poisoning The Well. Some things our corrupt government does is correct.
  8. Wrangler

    Why Civilization Should Defend Zionism

    Nirvana fallacy. No people perfectly live up to their own ideals. No people are held to such standards as Israel. Watching CBN the other day, Michele Bachman observed this. Ukraine is not micromanaged on how to use its military support like Israel. Ukraine does not have UN condemning its...
  9. Wrangler

    Why Civilization Should Defend Zionism

    I keenly follow the Zionist trail. It's just that it truly begins with God commanding Joshua to conquer Canaan about 1700 BC. Not sure what conclusion you seek to draw from this set of facts? Every movement had a beginning. So what?
  10. Wrangler

    Why Civilization Should Defend Zionism

    You do like to do laps on ground already covered.
  11. Wrangler

    Why Civilization Should Defend Zionism

    John 4:22 is a poor translation? Almost every translation ends with "translation is from the Jews." LOL
  12. Wrangler

    Why Civilization Should Defend Zionism

    Sad appeal to authority. So, only if all Muslims believe in destroying Israel it is right for Israel to be destroyed but since there are Muslims who are OK with a 2-State solution, with Israel's right to exist, then the Palestinians have no claim whatsoever to the land. That's your reasoning...
  13. Wrangler

    Why Civilization Should Defend Zionism

    Ironic. I just read that this morning in devotional reading. :D
  14. Wrangler

    Why Civilization Should Defend Zionism

    What's the difference between a Zionist and an Israelite? This falsehood, this false dichotomy is at the root of your unreasonable disregard for why civilization should support Zionism. I say this because you incessantly make this point. Your statement is akin to claiming you believe in victory...
  15. Wrangler

    Why Civilization Should Defend Zionism

    As the OP points out, the Zionist trail begins with God’s command for Joshua to Conquer Canaan.
  16. Wrangler

    Why Civilization Should Defend Zionism

    Another admission you lost the argument via Ad Homenim. False dichotomy. Parsing synonyms is in bad form.
  17. Wrangler

    How Do You Deliver The Message?

    Yes. Putting aside all doctrinal pontifications, my unbelieving neighbor said it best in a stream of consciousness. He realized that I am friends with everyone. I believe the word love is mistranslated in Scripture and the better word is to have universal compassion for everyone. Being...
  18. Wrangler

    How Do You Deliver The Message?

    This reminds me of a sermon last year. The pastor said that if you are going to be a witness for God, be a good witness. (There is such a thing as an adverse witness.) I hate proselyztizers! There is an important distinction with evangelizing. The former is coercive, berating, badgering. The...
  19. Wrangler

    How Do You Deliver The Message?

    Great OP. Thanks for starting this thread and welcome to the forum. The Bible talks about being all things to all people so some might be saved. It means that we are not supposed to do what works best for us but what is more effective for others. Having said that, I agree that brevity is the...
  20. Wrangler

    Why Civilization Should Defend Zionism

    Not quite. From the OP ... My 1st point was that Western Civilization is founded on Judeo-Christian religion & ethics. There would be no Christianity OR salvation if it were not for the Jews. John 4:22 New Living Translation 22 You Samaritans know very little about the one you worship, while...