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You're not making any sense as it pertains to the conversation we were having. Go back and READ the last few posts - THEN reply.

Wrong. Baptism is part of the obedience of faith (Rom. 1:5). It's pretty much the FIRST obedient act of a new believer. And, we don't receive "imputed" righteousness when we enter Heaven. Christ MAKES us righteous. Rev. 21:27 states explicitly that NOTHING impure of imperfect can enter Heaven...

Nonsense. Sanctification is PART of the process of salvation. To say Baptism is necessary for one but not the other is contradictory. If it's a commandment of Christ - then it's necessary . . .

Uh-hun, and nothing about "rejecting" the longer definition, That's what I thought . . .f Here is a perfect example of ONE WORD defined by FOUR different sources with DIFFERENTLY nuanced definitions: Definition of "Paranoia": Dictionary.com baseless or excessive suspicion of the motives of...

Really?? show me ONE. Show me ONE of your sources that says Kechritomenes does NOT mean "completely, perfectly and enduringly endowed with grace". Show me where they reject this definition. I can pull out 3 different dictionaries for the SAME word and you will get differently-nuanced...

And what this ALL boils down to once again is that Jesus was a MAN - and God. And, YOU haven't been able to show me - from Scripture - that there are "different kinds" of men other than HUMAN. You can blather on with your verbose, psychotic rants - but in the end, you haven't shown this because...

Ummmmm, talk about "beating around the bush" . . . If you can't deal with Mary's title of "Kecharitomene" -= then you can't have an intelligent conversation about it. I have given you the definition about TWENTY times now and you keep dodging it. Deal with it and get back to me . . .

Ummmmm, it wasn't ME who defined it - but linguists who are FAR more qualified and educated than myself. No - it's just that you are calling Melkite Catholics, Maronite Catholics, Byzantine Catholics, Alexandrian Catholics and about 15 other Liturgical Rites "Roman" - which is a real beginner's...

No - you've responded with quick, hit-and-run posts - but ZERO Scriptural, historical or linguistic evidence.

Actually - that's NOT what He said. He said you you would be better off cuting off yuour have or gouging out your eye IF that's what was causing you to skin. difference. As for the first part of your response - Paul, writing under the inspiration og the Holy Spirit disagrees with you . . . 1...

It's because you haven't presented any evidence to the contrary. I've come to the conclusion that you simply don't have any - otherwise, you would be more than willing top share the Good News . . .

Pay attention. For about the twentieth time - Kecharitomenes translates as: COMPLETELY, PERFECTLY and ENDURINGLY endowed with grace. She had ALREADY been COMPLETELY endowed with grace before the Angel got there. YOU are not COMPLETELY endowed with grace. I am not COMPLETELY endowed with...

No - it's just that we demand PROOF to the contrary if you expect us to believe something else. So far - you've failed . . .

The sources I gave you were NOT Catholic. Explain why these scholars choose to define "Kecharitomene" in this way - WITHOUT having a pro-Catholic bias if it were not true. And as I educated you several times now - there is no such entity as "The Roman Catholic Church" - so your point is moot ...

No - you just ramble on senselessly. A thinking person wisely chooses what to say and gets to their point in a concise manner - especially on a discussion forum. Again with the "IS and the "AS". You just like playing semantic games with the text. The Biblical truth is that Jesus is FULLY...

Actually - He Himself said that He is "the "BREAD of Life (John 6:35) - and whoever eats his Flesh and drinks His Blood has ETERNAL LIFE - and He will raise them on the last day (John 6:504). Not sure why you would doubt what the Lord said - bit it's your choice . . .

That was the main point that @epostle was making. The Real Presence was a side issue from that topic. So - do you believe that Jesus Christ was a human being as well as God - or that He was just spirit?

No, you haven't. You have given your opinions.

For starters: The Greek Grammar of the New Testament, Blass and DeBrunner Kecharitomene (Lk. 1:28) in the Light of Gen. 18:16-33: A Matter of Quantity, François Rossier, University of Dayton Once again - this is PURE anti-Catholic OPINION. You haven't provided ANY evidence. Besides - there is...