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  1. quietthinker

    Forgiveness. Must we forgive ALL sins against us?

    I think Jesus was praying for all who were involved in his execution. It is consistent with his teaching of loving those who persecute you and doing good to those who despitefully use you.....so you may be sons of your Father in heaven. It is the highest bar if we can use that expression. The...
  2. quietthinker

    Forgiveness. Must we forgive ALL sins against us?

    I'm trying to figure out what it is in my post that isn't true
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    What if found the crown of thorns Jesus wore/what would you do with them

    nothing blasphemous about burning thorns; why, most think it is acceptable for God to fry people unendingly....now that's blasphemous!
  4. quietthinker

    Forgiveness. Must we forgive ALL sins against us?

    The paralytic let down through the roof on a mat didn't ask for for anything yet Jesus not only forgave him but had him skipping out of there. The lost coin had no clue it was lost....yet it was found. The prodigal son figured he was on a winner if he could be a servant but the Father wouldn't...
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    Jesus Second Coming

    if they don't miss the bus ie.
  6. quietthinker

    I don't think Predestination means Salvation

    Working out and keeping context is singularly important. Roman 5:12-18 also illustrates the in Adam/ in Christ of humanity. Hebrews 2 speaks of the superiority of the Son to angels and his relationship to men......no conflict there.
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    I don't think Predestination means Salvation

    1 Corinthians 15:22 'for as in Adam all die, so in Christ all will be made alive.'
  8. quietthinker

    I don't think Predestination means Salvation

    All have that privilege Tong....not all see its value. How God sees and how we as people see is miles apart. The revealing of Jesus tells me God desires all people to see as he sees.....and not only sees but feels. Here is a quote from a favourite author I thought as pertinent. Those who think...
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    The Restrainer. And the Restrained.

    yes, I understood you were just pulling legs. I thought I'd use the opportunity to touch on some of my personal stuff.
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    I don't think Predestination means Salvation

    It's not a matter of debate for me Tong. God has overwhelmingly displayed his character in the story of Jesus. The good news for all peoples knocking on each individual door delivering unparalleled acceptance in the beloved. Sadly, those who dismiss it never see its breathtaking beauty and for...
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    The Restrainer. And the Restrained.

    Well, this is how I see it.....when someone tells me they love me, irrespective of how they say it.....I lap it up. I've never been in a situation where I've been told too often. I'll share something....For most of my life I have lived with a poor self image, in fact I have believed I was ugly...
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    I don't think Predestination means Salvation

    Below is a dictionary definition which as I understand it is the standard understanding of those I see arguing it. I do not see the God revealed in Jesus or spoken of by the apostles including Paul taking this line. predestination | priːˌdɛstɪˈneɪʃ(ə)n | noun [mass noun] (in Christian theology)...
  13. quietthinker

    When the dragon saw that he was cast unto the earth

    Not 'the church' but could it be 'a church'. Could it be deducted that if a pure church is represented by a pure woman then an apostate church is aptly represented as an impure woman? I think so.
  14. quietthinker

    The Restrainer. And the Restrained.

    Awww CL...you can say that to me any day.
  15. quietthinker

    I don't think Predestination means Salvation

    I don't have a particular take which I parade on predestination. God loves; that defines him. 1 Corinthians 13 gives us a window into love's qualities....verse 5 stands out for me "keeps no record of wrongs'.....consider the implications of that.
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    I don't think Predestination means Salvation

    Those who do not reject the gift given them are referred to as believers. That does not mean that those who reject the gift given have not had it given. The word all and many (the many) in their context qualify the the terms. Jesus came into the world to save sinners. He did not fail. The...
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    When the dragon saw that he was cast unto the earth

    'virgin' is reference to being spotless and clean as we see in Ephesians 5:27, Revelation 21:2, 14:4 It has nothing, repeat, nothing to do with not having had sexual relations. The Church is presented as a pure woman as depicted in Revelation 12 as opposed to an impure woman shown in Revelation 17
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    When the dragon saw that he was cast unto the earth

    The number 12 signifies all of Gods people throughout all time (known as Israel) not isolated to physical Israel. Physical Israel for the most part were and are an abysmal failure as God's representatives but spiritual Israel ie, all who are truly God's people, Jews and Gentiles alike, are...
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    I don't think Predestination means Salvation

    I thought the texts are self explanatory but I'll give some details:- Romans 3:23 'for all have sinned and come short of the glory of God'. ...in other words, all humanity is down the flush Romans 3:24 'being justified freely by the redemption which is in Christ Jesus'. Who is justified...
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    When the dragon saw that he was cast unto the earth

    Jesus came through the line of those who believed in him. Several were not even Israelites like Rahab or Ruth, others also.....yet they are included with God's People (his Church) because they believed. Abraham also was no Israelite for he was around before Israel was established....so you could...