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or...iron sharpens iron...and other such golf analogies...

...and become as what little children? Unconverted children? You think the unconverted are evil. But you won't answer me because you look away in shame. You know you are wrong...but you can't let go of your religion.

God is always looking for the same thing. Grace is just a help to get to the same place. So then the OT righteousness is still the goal. Jesus empowers us to fulfill the righteous requirements of the law. In the NT we are also called to a higher place...a better salvation. We can be with...

You think they are evil. But Jesus says of such are the kingdom. So then you have an entirely different Jesus. A very religious bigoted and pessimistic one.

So then people of all religions...or non-religions...could have that same faith as the OT saints in your view?

I added a little to it.....for clarity... :)

The NT is every day observance. Sabbath means full stop....just like God did.

Let's look at the parable of the talents.(Mat. 25) If we see the talent (grace) as God's righteousness to us....as a gift of grace...then we also need to grow ourselves into a maturity in righteousness. So we are being conformed to the character of Christ in this way. So we make a new talent...

So you are saying that Cornelius the Gentile soldier was an OT saint?

OK

That's not what the bible says. Cornelius only received the Spirit in Acts 10. You are WAY off...

Myself? I was a sinner...lost and broken. I needed a life transfusion! So Jesus came to me.

Hi APAK Thank you for your interest. One must glean the truth by putting together all the different lessons and thoughts throughout the entire counsel of God that is the bible. God shows us things by comparisons. Whenever we hear of the faithful...we also hear of the unfaithful. The ones who...

Imagine going to a circus that had only one pony!? A one trick pony at that. Of course the faith OF Christ is a gift we receive AFTER we encounter God. But you are missing the centurion who had a great faith...that he learned because he was a soldier and understood authority. That centurion...

That is total depravity...I mean THAT is total depravity. ;)

Jewish believers met with their Gentile brethren AFTER havdalah. They met TOGETHER on the first day of the week.

That depends on what we were when we were called. Don't make everything the same. God creates variety. Vive la difference! :)

I saw a show about a man who LOVED old cars that visited a junkyard. This man could name every jalopy he saw....a '49 this and a '51 that. There were cars from the 30's...all the way to the 70's. He knew which engine was in which. He knew the models...the options, the seat arrangements. The guy...

I believe in a living God....not just a historic Jesus. I'm not so sure you have been taught correctly at all. God is love. People who are against love....God is against. God is merciful. He cares for people whether they believe in Him or not. He gives people a long time to understand things...

Imagine going to a wrecking yard (I saw this show on the net about this) and looking through all the old jalopies. Then, your eye catches a beat up old car...that you think has the POTENTIAL to be restored. So you buy it. (Redeem it) You patiently restore the car to it's ORIGINAL factory...