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Now this is a good discussion....not really biblical so we are talking outside that boundary. So what we discuss here in not against the bible....it is extrabiblical. My first question would be to @TEXBOW...where did you get this information that... "They prophesied that Jesus would die on the...

If you decide to take biblical study seriously you need to start with the basics. The foundation of your understanding should be true and unshakeable. If you notice Christ and the Apostles were not entertaining debates. The foundation is the basics...it is the basics that are going to get you to...

Again I am going to say that ..... But mostly the scriptures are clear. And those scriptures that are borderline....then it takes a little digging. But most of the time you can find the truth. You want an old expression....muddy the water. This what your post is about here....I have already...

So do you think that Christ was joking about the fire?

Gnashing of teeth The parable of rich man and Lazarus ..... Oblivion would be a welcome alternative to what is described....not even much of a punishment, you would not know about it. Really nothing to fear....why worry about it. It is one of those things that you wonder why hell and heaven...

What else did Christ and Apostles believe it was? It is usually about fire and the punishment is eternal. Now is it actually fire or are they giving an image of the worst thing they can describe? If it was something worse than fire, how could they describe it. There is nothing in there about a...

He was the symbolic and divine sacrificial lamb and He was slain around 3:00 pm on the 7th of April, (Friday) around the time that the actual sacrificial lambs were being slain. The Passover dinner for Him was held on the evening of the 6th of April...Thursday and they had a sacrificial lamb...

And these will go away into eternal punishment, but the righteous into eternal life. Then he will say to those on his left, ‘Depart from me, you cursed, into the eternal fire prepared for the devil and his angels. And the smoke of their torment goes up forever and ever, and they have no rest...

Well yes.....Passover occurs on the 15th of Nisan....always and always on a full moon it starts the evening before. The 14th of Nisan was on a Friday. The Last Supper on a Thursday.

If any of this Jehovah's Witness dribble about hell, has anyone confused, here is nearly 100 New Testament scriptures about eternal punishment. Now most of it is about fire of some sort....and it probably is, but if they knew about something worse than being roasted for eternity, they may have...

I am sorry I missed this...not ignoring you. You are correct the Lamb would be slaughtered on the evening of the 14th day of Nisan. That would be Friday and Passover would be on the 15th day of Nisan....the Last Supper occurred on the 13th day of Nisan.

The you is just a general "you" LOL Some people operate on the willy nilly and fussy logic of defining the reality of nothing.... But mostly the scriptures are clear. And those scriptures that are borderline....then it takes a little digging. But most of the time you can find the truth. But...

There is no biblical requirement for any Christian to agree with each other. I would think that there is a requirement to agree with the scriptures. Or be honest enough to say you do not agree with the scriptures. And then there are some that believe any scripture can mean anything. That the...

@Davy You might want to re-read that because I was still working on it and added to it.

You speak of heresy. And yes some may debate you, but I, knowing the methods of the Jehovah's Witnesses I know your mind is twisted and entangled in these blasphemies. Lies drilled into their minds every time they meet. It will do no good to debate with you and tell you to repent of these lies...

Spoken like a true cultist. LOL I was going to critique this post, point by point but it enough to say, no truth was written. You point out what is not in Bible and add your own terms....the phrases "spirit being" is not in the Bible. A horrible eternal punishment, whatever that may be is a...

Wrong again. The Passover meal on Thursday was for Christ because He would not be able to attend the actual Passover meal that would occur on Friday evening. He died on the Cross about the time the Passover lambs were being killed on the evening before the Passover on Saturday.

Praying for you....Blessings.... I am sure you will get good suggestions here. I will give you one....change of venue....can you move and meet different people maybe find a good church?

You cannot take a debate personally. I am a natural speaker and experienced in debating. I am a big OX and a gentle giant in church and just as much a kid as the rest of them....but when evil raises its ugly head....stand back for the show. I do not usually debate in church...my ministry is the...

Over 30,000 denominations, how could I ever pick....darts?! LOL Now I am not into a one world religion but you could say that I take the Baskin Robbins approach to denominations....31 flavors is enough. My ministry is to the best of those denominations even though they have their own...