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  1. BreadOfLife

    Is water baptism necessary for salvation?

    WOW. It’s really difficult to imagine how so much abject ignorance and blindness can be packed into ONE single human being . . As I sated before the cross at the top of the obelisk in St. Peter’s Square says it ALL: Victory of Christ over ALL paganism. This is akin to one nation planting its...
  2. BreadOfLife

    The Doctrine of Purgatory in Catholic Biblical Perspective

    Ahhhhh, so you SDA’s believe that God made a different set of rules for Moses and a different set of rules for the people who were resurrected when Jesus died and a different set of rules for the great cloud of Witnesses in Heb. 12:1 - and yet another different set of rules for the Elders in...
  3. BreadOfLife

    The Doctrine of Purgatory in Catholic Biblical Perspective

    Nope, I'm completely aware. That's my whole point, sparky. The Bereans learned that Jesus was the Messiah from ORAL teaching - authoritative Church teaching . . .
  4. BreadOfLife

    Is water baptism necessary for salvation?

    Never claimed that MY words were authoritative - and neither are YOURS. The words of Christ's Church, however ARE (Matt. 16:18-19, Matt. 18:15-18, Luke 10:16, John 16:12-15, John 20:21-23). As for the obelisk in St. Peter's Square - it always strikes me as comical when an ignorant anti-Catholic...
  5. BreadOfLife

    The Doctrine of Purgatory in Catholic Biblical Perspective

    Nope – because I have the New Testament. The point here is that although Protestants - and YOU - like to point to the fact they the Bereans searched the Scriptures for answers and consider them “Sola Scripturists” – they finally accepted a truth that wasn’t in Scripture at all – but taught...
  6. BreadOfLife

    Is water baptism necessary for salvation?

    I don’t need to prove you wrong because you are presenting an idea that has absolutely ZERO basis in Scripture OR Tradition. The onus is on YOU to prove YOUR position – not for ME to go chasing fairy tales. You have concocted a false doctrine based on the unfortunate circumstance of havioong...
  7. BreadOfLife

    Is water baptism necessary for salvation?

    Sorry but you’re wrong. Baptism FAR transcends the washings of the OT. This is explicitly mentioned in the prophecy concerning Baptism in Ezek. 36:25-27 where Baptism is described as giving the recipient a new heart and a new spirit, causing us to receive the Holy spirit and walk in His...
  8. BreadOfLife

    The Doctrine of Purgatory in Catholic Biblical Perspective

    You didn't answer my question. How did the Bereans know Jesus was the Christ, the Messiah??
  9. BreadOfLife

    Is water baptism necessary for salvation?

    WRONG. And this is proved by verses like John 21:21-23 and Exod. 33:19. God's will have mercy on WHOMEVER He wills - not who YOU think He should.
  10. BreadOfLife

    Is water baptism necessary for salvation?

    Wrong. Original Sin is a stain we are ALL marked with. If it weren’t – Christ wouldn’t have had to come down and sacrifice His very self. The evidence of this our flawed condition as humans - and death. Rom. 5:12-21 sums this up Therefore, just as through one person sin entered the world...
  11. BreadOfLife

    Is water baptism necessary for salvation?

    God can do ANYTHING He wants - and it is none of YOUR business. This is basically what Christ told Peter when he asked about John: John 21:21-23 When Peter saw him, he asked, “Lord, what about him?” When Peter saw him, he asked, “Lord, what about him?” Jesus answered, “If I want him to remain...
  12. BreadOfLife

    Is water baptism necessary for salvation?

    Sorry - but this is a weak argument. He could have been Baptized?? Seriously?? The doctrine of Baptism of Desire is based on the Church's God-given Authority to make that call. Your "zero tolerance" God condemns millions of aborted babies to Hell. Besides, going by your "what if" logic - what...
  13. BreadOfLife

    The Doctrine of Purgatory in Catholic Biblical Perspective

    I know it from Scripture and Tradition. How did the Bereans know this??
  14. BreadOfLife

    Is water baptism necessary for salvation?

    You keep claiming that YOU believe that the Thief and all of the people who came out of their graves were water-baptized in the "rain" after the Crucifixion. You watch too many movies because this is NOT mentioned in Scripture OR Tradition at ALL. You also claim to be "100% correct" that...
  15. BreadOfLife

    Is water baptism necessary for salvation?

    Huh?? This is the crux of the conversation. Belief means absolutely NOTHING without faith. As I showed you before - the DEMONS have belief - but they don't have faith. Works aren't a result of faith - they are an essential component of it.
  16. BreadOfLife

    Is water baptism necessary for salvation?

    Water Baptism is the normative means for the forgiveness of sins and salvation (John 3:5, Mark 16:16, Acts 2:38, Col. 2:11-15, 3 Pet 3:21). HOWEVER – God can and DOES make exceptions. Remember what He told Moses: Exod 33:19, Rom. 9:15 "I will have mercy on whom I have mercy, and I will have...
  17. BreadOfLife

    Is water baptism necessary for salvation?

    Wrong. James shows that true faith has TWO components: Belief and Obedience/Works. If ALL you have is belief – you do NOT have true faith. If ALL you have is works – you do NOT have true faith. It is a marriage of the two. True faith requires your cooperation with god’s grace. This is...
  18. BreadOfLife

    Is water baptism necessary for salvation?

    If ALL you do is “believe” – then you are NO better off than the demons. This is what the entire chapter of James 2 is about. Biblical Christian faith is MUCH more than this. To Jesus your belief is worthless unless you are willing to pick up your cross daily and follow Jim. Belief is something...
  19. BreadOfLife

    Is water baptism necessary for salvation?

    The Catholic Church absolutely teaches that believing in Christ is what saves us- IF you understand the BIBLICAL definition of “belief”. Let’s examine what the Bible says about “Belief”. James tells us that belief – as a mere intellectual assent - is worthless because even the DEMONS believe...
  20. BreadOfLife

    Is water baptism necessary for salvation?

    Those who received “THE word.” WHOSE word?? PETER’S word. Read this statement in its proper context. WHAT was Peter’s word?? He said: Acts 2:37-40 Now when they heard this, they were cut to the heart, and they asked Peter and the other apostles, “What are we to do, my brothers?” Peter [said]...